Charles “Chuck” Feeney – the worlds greatest philanthropist

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Feeney

Charles F. Feeney (born April 23, 1931 in Elizabeth, N.J.), an Irish-American businessman and philanthropist. He made his fortune as a co-founder with Robert Warren Miller of the Duty Free Shoppers Group.

Feeney, an Irish-American with dual citizenship, was born in New Jersey during the Great Depression. He served as a U.S. Air Force radio operator during the Korean War, and began his career selling duty-free liquor to US Naval personnel at Mediterranean ports in the 1950s.

He attended the Cornell University School of Hotel Administration.

Feeney has four daughters and one son. Two of the daughters are Diane V. Feeney and Leslie D. Feeney Baily. He married twice. His first wife, Danielle, from France, retained 100 million USD and a number of mansions and apartments after their 1990 separation and subsequent divorce.

“I had one idea that never changed in my mind — that you should use your wealth to help people. I try to live a normal life, the way I grew up,” Feeney said. “I set out to work hard, not to get rich.”

Feeney founded Atlantic Philanthropies in 1982, and in 1984, having made provision for each of his children and for his first wife, as well as very modest provision for himself, transferred the bulk of his wealth to the foundation.

Up to 2005, AP had given away $3.547 billion.

Feeney has been a major donor to his alma mater Cornell University, which has received over $580 million in direct and AP gifts. He has also donated around $1 billion to education in Ireland, mostly to third-level institutions, most notably the University of Limerick, and over 220 million to causes in Vietnam.

A 2003 article in Irish America magazine noted that Feeney’s personal donations to Sinn Féin amounted to over a quarter of a million dollars, making him the organization’s largest American donor at the time. The donations were personal ones, made outside of his foundations.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/28/meet-the-philanthropist-who-embarrasses-the-rich-a-listers/

Anna Bligh’s struggle with out-of-control health costs received an unexpected bailout yesterday, when the secretive philanthropic svengali Chuck Feeney stumped up the biggest-ever donation in Australian history.

Feeney, the subject of this Australian Story in 2007, famously gave up his personal fortune in 1984, gleaned from selling duty free goods to British expats at the old Hong Kong Airport, to work behind the scenes to fund worthy projects. Feeney doesn’t live in Australia — his main connection to the country is through old tennis mate Ken Fletcher.

With Bligh and Treasurer Wayne Swan on hand to celebrate his largesse, the soft-spoken Irishman pledged $100 million to three medical institutes, bringing to $270 million the total amount given by his private donations behemoth Atlantic Philanthropies over the past decade. The donation is all the more extraordinary given the leverage extracted from government  — the Queensland and federal governments will match Feeney’s funding to the tune of $177 million and $325 million respectively.

The re-emergence of Feeney was unexpected, after Atlantic provided notice in mid-2003 that that it had shifted its funding priorities away from Australia to focus instead on the developing world and needy communities in the US and UK. However, it had been quietly donating locally since then, with $50 million distributed in 2005.

So what does it say about home-grown philanthropy when a quiet Irish American can suddenly set local records?

“It is absolutely tragic that greatest philanthropist in Australia doesn’t live in Australia, is not married to an Australian and whose only connection to Australia is via an old tennis mate”, philanthropy activist and former Microsoft Australia chief, Daniel Petre, told Crikey.

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/13/Life/Meet_Chuck_Feeney__th.shtml

The man pulling a worn blue blazer over his head in mock modesty was none other than the onetime billionaire Chuck Feeney.

Never heard of him? No surprise there.

Over the years, the frugal 76-year-old has made a fetish out of anonymity. He declined to name his foundation, Atlantic Philanthropies, after himself, registering the $8-billion behemoth in Bermuda to avoid U.S. disclosure laws. He lavishes hundreds of millions of dollars on universities and hospitals but won’t allow even a small plaque identifying him as a donor.

“We just didn’t want to be blowing our horn,” he explains in a rare interview at his daughter’s Upper East Side apartment.

The party was to celebrate a biography of the elusive tycoon by Irish journalist Conor O’Clery, titled The Billionaire Who Wasn’t: How Chuck Feeney Secretly Made and Gave Away a Fortune, published last fall.

Feeney said he cooperated with the book and submitted to an interview because he is driven by a new public mission: nudging hedge fund heavies and silicon scions into “giving while living.”

It is the latest trend in philanthropy and one that he, more than anyone, jump-started several years before billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren E. Buffett followed suit.

Feeney, a founder of the conglomerate Duty Free Shoppers, said he wants to set an example for people who have “a jillion dollars. … I mean, honestly, if you ask them, ‘Tell me what you’re doing with your money this week?’ they couldn’t spend a fraction of what they’re accruing.”

Most foundations, set up after the donor’s death, dribble out barely more than 5 percent of their assets each year, the legal minimum.

But Feeney, raised in a blue-collar Irish Catholic family in New Jersey, quietly transferred the bulk of his fortune to his foundation when he was 53. Then, eight years ago, he instructed his board to pay out every last dollar by 2016.

So far: $4-billion down, $4-billion to go. Atlantic Philanthropies is spreading its wealth at the rate of more than $400-million a year, more than any U.S.-based family foundation apart from Bill & Melinda Gates and Ford.

O’Clery, former international business editor of the Irish Times, spent two years traveling with Feeney and investigating a financial empire that had been sheathed for decades in obsessive secrecy. He unfolds a story of ferocious entrepreneurship that operated, he concluded, “on the edge of legality but was never corrupt.”

After graduating from college, Feeney, who had served in the U.S. Air Force in Japan during the Korean War, moved to Europe. With a partner he knew from Cornell, Robert Miller, he began peddling duty-free liquor to sailors.

The two went on to sell cars to American soldiers based in Europe and Asia. Eventually, profiting from a postwar boom in tourism, they built Duty Free Shoppers into the biggest retailer of liquor and cigarettes in the world and a global purveyor of luxury goods.

Their ingenious schemes stretched the limits of the duty-free concept.

As O’Clery explains, Duty Free Shoppers allowed a tourist in Mexico, for instance, to peruse a catalog and choose a cashmere sweater to be shipped from Amsterdam to his home in the United States. Leaving Mexico, he could declare the faraway sweater as “unaccompanied baggage” and avoid paying duty. Feeney and Miller operated with Swiss bank accounts and offshore headquarters in Lichtenstein, Monaco and the Netherlands Antilles. They registered assets in the names of Danielle, Feeney’s French wife, and Miller’s Ecuadorean wife, Chantal, as a precaution against the long arm of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.

Today, Feeney makes no apologies. “Most large companies structure their affairs so that they minimize their tax payments,” he says, rocking back on an armchair in his daughter’s apartment. “As long as you do it within the law, it’s okay.”

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/chuck-feeney-being-taken-for-a-long-and-very-expensive-ride-475256.html

IT’S SAD to see a good man suckered, and the Irish-American Charles (Chuck) Feeney is a very good man. Feeney could afford to live like an emperor, yet he owns no property, flies economy class, dresses off-the-peg and wears a $15 plastic watch.

Having given his children modest endowments, he is engaged in the considerable job of giving his enormous fortune away before he dies: “giving while living” is his motto. Yet, though he is highly intelligent and well-read – and became a billionaire through flair, courage and industry – Feeney has been badly suckered.

No philanthropist has poured money into Ireland like Feeney. Between 1992 and 2002, his foundation, Atlantic Philanthropies, gave $702m – $548m of which was to the Republic. If the presidents of our universities don’t say prayers daily in gratitude for Feeney’s munificence, they are an ungrateful bunch. They have no other way of rewarding him, for Feeney hates publicity and wants neither honorary degrees nor buildings named after him.

Feeney’s areas of interest dictate where and on what Atlantic Philanthropies focus. In 2004, of total grant funds of $165.7m, 43 per cent went to projects in the US, 17 per cent to Vietnam, 13 per cent to South Africa and – considering the size of our little island – a whopping 13 per cent ($22.1m) to the Republic and 2 per cent ($3.2m) to Northern Ireland. The charity’s new focus is on disadvantaged children and youth, ageing, population health, reconciliation and human rights.

There’s no doubting the integrity and compassion of Feeney and the board of Atlantic Philanthropies. The problem is that the republican movement has taken cynical advantage of them.

Feeney was introduced to Gerry Adams in the early Nineties. “I talked to him and I liked him,” said Feeney. “He was very straightforward.”

Feeney spent much time and money encouraging the republican movement down the political path: from 1995 for three years he, personally, (Atlantic Philanthropies is debarred by its constitution from funding political movements) provided the Sinn Fein office in Washington with $720,000.

“The goal was to establish a Washington office to put Sinn Fein on a respectable platform where they could say ‘this is what Sinn Fein does, we’re not the IRA’.”

It was during this period that the IRA, under Adams, broke its ceasefire with a bomb at Canary Wharf that killed two newsagents.

Feeney has to be too shrewd to have gone on believing Sinn Fein and the IRA to be separate, but he was undaunted. Post-Agreement, he began directing large sums of money towards rehabilitating green and orange paramilitaries. In 2002, for instance, £1,968,000 went towards helping politically motivated ex-prisoners become involved in “positive political and community development”.

That same year, £85,000 was awarded to Community Restorative Justice Ireland (CRJI) under a programme called ‘Equality, Rights and Justice’, followed in 2003 by a three-year grant totalling £926,000. Northern Ireland Alternatives (NIA), its loyalist equivalent, got £860,000.

Feeney’s objective was to stop the knee-cappings and beatings, and worse, by providing some kind of non-violent community alternative while policing was being sorted out. Three years on, while NIA is cooperating with the police, CRJI refuses to do so: its 14 schemes have institutionalised parallel policing in its ghettos.

So, as Atlantic Philanthropies invested millions in human rights programmes, it had been suckered into bank-rolling people who interrogate children suspected of anti-social behaviour and intimidate those who offend them.

http://atlanticphilanthropies.org/
DIRECTORS
Harvey P. Dale, Founding President
University Professor of Philanthropy and the Law, New York University School of Law
Director, National Center on Philanthropy and the Law

Christine V. Downton
Former Partner, Pareto Partners

Charles F. Feeney, Founding Chair

William Hall
Chair of Medical Microbiology, School of Medicine, University College Dublin

Gara LaMarche, President and Chief Executive Officer of The Atlantic Philanthropies

Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, Deputy Chair
Professor, Harvard Graduate School of Education

Elizabeth J. McCormack
Advisor, Rockefeller Family & Associates

Thomas N. Mitchell, Deputy Chair
Director, Trinity Foundation
Former Provost, Trinity College Dublin

Frederick A. O. Schwarz, Jr., Chair
Senior Counsel, Cravath, Swaine & Moore, New York
Senior Counsel, The Brennan Center for Justice
Chair, New York City Campaign Finance Board

Peter Smitham
Chairman of Actis
Partner in Permira

Michael I. Sovern
President Emeritus and Chancellor Kent Professor of Law, Columbia University, New York

Cummings V. Zuill
Senior Vice President, Bank of Bermuda, Retired
Bermuda Charity Commissioner

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ATLANTIC Philanthropies, the American group headed by multi-millionaire Sinn Fein sympathiser Chuck Feeny and which funds restoratice justice schemes in Northern Ireland, has pulled the plug on money for the Centre for Public Inquiry. The CPI is headed by Frank Connolly, the brother of Niall Connolly, one of the Colombia 3 who is wanted by the government there for his alleged role in training FARC guerillas there with an IRA team.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in

Is a political party in Ireland. The current party, led by Gerry Adams, was formed following a split in January 1970 and traces its origins back to the original Sinn Féin party formed in 1905. It is a major party of Irish republicanism and its political ideology is left wing. The party has historically been associated with the Provisional IRA. The name is Irish for “ourselves” or “we ourselves”,although it is frequently mistranslatedas “ourselves alone”.

At the European Parliamentary elections 2009, Sinn Fein topped the polls in Northern Ireland , making them Northern Ireland’s largest party for the first time . Sinn Féin is currently the second-largest party in the Northern Ireland Assembly, where it has four ministerial posts (including deputy First Minister) in the power-sharing Northern Ireland Executive, and the fifth-largest party in Dáil Éireann, the lower house of the Oireachtas, the parliament of the Republic of Ireland.

Sinn Féin is the largest group in the Republican wing of Irish nationalism and is closely associated with the IRA, with the Irish Government alleging that senior members of Sinn Féin have held posts on the IRA Army Council. However the SF leadership has denied these claims.

A republican document of the early 1980s states, “Both Sinn Féin and the IRA play different but converging roles in the war of national liberation. The Irish Republican Army wages an armed campaign… Sinn Féin maintains the propaganda war and is the public and political voice of the movement”.

Sinn Féin organiser Danny Morrison at the party’s Ard Fheis (Annual Conference) in 1981, said:

“Who here really believes we can win the war through the ballot box? But will anyone here object if, with a ballot paper in this hand and an Armalite in the other, we take power in Ireland?”

The current British Government stated in 2005 that “we had always said all the way through we believed that Sinn Féin and the IRA were inextricably linked and that had obvious implications at leadership level”.

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chuck is a very interesting man to research..the greatest philanthropist of our time and hardly anyone knew it was him till the last few years..i have been unable to come up with anything decidely bad about chuck..he appears to be a great guy who is very generous..his ties with sinn fein are dubious at best..sinn fein’s links to the IRA are well known..but if any of our readers from the UK are able to give a little bit more information about this man it would be appreciated..he has given away 4 billion dollars in his time, and will give away another 4 billion through atlantic philanthropies..i note a harvard lady on his board and also one from the a rockefeller charity

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173 Responses to “Charles “Chuck” Feeney – the worlds greatest philanthropist”

  1. i Came acorss this page after being curious about Mr. Feeny and his giving while living concept, i was horrified to see all the people asking this man for more, hes trying to make the world a better place while hes alive to see it folks, enriching an individuals life vs enriching future generations and entire populations, i think he has the right idea. AND before any one thinks ohhh she probably has a great life etc…my husband is a disabled American Veteran, he is paralysed and lost his right leg and we live in subsidized housing, so our lives are the best we can make it as is some of the other folks who posted. i just wanted to thank Mr Feeny for what he is doing, im sure that my daughter will have some kind of benefit in her lifetime due to his generosity!

    Thank you Mr. Feeny for helping humanity as best you can…..i can guarentee you have made a difference even if its just in my perspective.

  2. lol this thread’s been turfed…

  3. I am waiting for the discovery that Charles Feeney is the pseudonym of a Nigerian prince and all he needs is one’s bank account number to send one a check.

  4. Thank you for the life lessons. I know that God will reserve a place for you in heaven. I know every bit of it counts.

  5. Trust me when i say ‘we need more men like Chuck Feeny’ in this world. Men who have so much and are willing to help poor and developing Nations fight HIV, Malaria, TB…….etc and not using such monies to fund terrorism.

  6. Story is well written and thought provoking – Mr. Feeney is truly an inspiration. Kudos to him, his parents and/or whatever experiences that helped to shape him into this wonderful humanitarian! May I instill this in my children!

  7. i am now more convinced than ever that not only is feeny a prime example of subhuman scum, but that he is also an example of someone who pays to defend his reputation online.

    people in the west need to stop fucking with africa – period. that includes the “help” that you want to offer them, which is actually eugenics – the idea of KILLING most of the people there.

    those of you who fawn over people like feeney are either 1) paid or 2) completely empty inside.

  8. Thanks Mr. Charles for your help, god bless you.

  9. OK everyone, I just got off the phone with Mr. Feeny. He said anyone asking for money here on this blog will definitely NOT get any money. He also said “Have a nice day.”

  10. how can any1 possibly want to talk bad about a man who has devoted his life and wealth to mankind?…he has done a lot and i think he deserves appreciation. those who think otherwise,should pls show us what they have ever done to make the world better.

    • it’s very simple, Chigo, so let me explain it to you.

      the idea of “philanthropy” is a misnomer. rich people who are engaged in “philanthropy” are almost always eugenicists.

      Who are the eugenicists? They are people who think the world would be beautiful – if only there were 90% less people.

      Guess who the 90% they want dead are?

      So, when a rich person says he wants to help with “education” or “health” … what he is really doing is teaching you DEATH.

      It is your choice to be fooled or not fooled. What am I doing to make the world a better place? I’m telling you the TRUTH, dammit. And you’d better fucking listen, or else you and your family will be killed by these “philanthropists.”

  11. ME GUSTARIA QUE ALGUIEN ME DIERA LA WEB DE ESTE SEÑOR O SU MAIL.

  12. Kayambo Community Youth Organization (KCYO).
    P.o. Box 178 – 40302,
    Ndhiwa,
    Kenya.
    Email address; youthorganization15@gmail.com
    Telephone No; +254713186390:

    RE; ASSISTANCE FOR PROJECT.
    Dear Mr. Charles Feeney,
    I am Polycap Ogalo and I am the Leader of Kayambo Community Youth Organization (KCYO) which was founded in 2006 to support people who have diagnosed with AIDS. Our organization take care of the HIV positives people including the cost of their treatment, medicines and their day-to-day expences.
    The organization is planning to come up with an event to raise fund so that we can offer better treatment and other facilities for our patients. The date that we have decided to hold the program is (25/2/2013) and we really greatful if you help in sponsoring this event.
    In return of valuable sponsorship, a banner of your company will be placed during the event. There is also aplan to print the logos of the sponsored compaies on sweatshirts.
    The total cost sponsor this event will come to around ($200,000) and we would be be really appreciated any support that can give for this event.
    We reall appreaciate you for concerning this proposal.
    Respectilly,
    Polycap Ogalo.

  13. MR FEENEY TIENE CORREO ELECTRONICO PERSONAL? ALGUIEN ME LO PUEDE PROPORCIONAR???????? GRACIAS

  14. Mr. Feeney, a need to send you a email, do you have one?…….if you can respond to my email please is very important. thank you…

  15. If I was asking Mr. Feeney for money on this site, I would just naturally read the letters here from others, which makes me VERY suspicious seeing how many people that are posting here, are not understanding that this is NOT Mr. Feeney’s website. Psyops? Trying to make it “appear” that all of Feeney’s money will be gone by 2016? Or is this just spam because you posted the story?

    Regarding Mr. Feeney..”How Chuck Feeney SECRETLY Made and Gave Away a Fortune”

    Was he truly a mogul or was he made to appear to be a mogul? Bermuda bank accounts, foundation not named after himself….almost sounds as if someone is trying to ‘invent’ Mr. Feeney before he dies.

    Cornell’s $350 Million Donor Feeney Plans to Give It All Away
    December 23, 2011

    While Forbes magazine in 1988 listed Feeney as the 23rd richest person in the world with assets of about $1.3 billion, the ranking was wrong, O’Clery said. Feeney had already signed over businesses to his philanthropy at a secret meeting in the Bahamas in 1984, according to O’Clery. The assets included spas in Thailand, retail stores in Hawaii and France, and property in the U.K.

    Profit from those businesses added as much as $300 million annually to the foundation’s endowment, O’Clery said. In 1997, the foundation received about $1.6 billion after Feeney’s share of Duty Free Shoppers Group was sold, he said.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-23/cornell-s-350-million-donor-feeney-plans-to-give-it-all-away.html

    This is the latest story about Feeney, and something about it all just doesn’t sit right with me. Too damn many ‘secrets’….I wonder if Feeney owned a ‘laundromat’?

    • hey..nice information on chuck..i did this post because of the philanthropy..i didnt think this many different people would get linked to it!

  16. Hello Mr. Charles F. Feeney, i know you hear this a lot, i actually read the comments in your post, and i appproach to you asking you to help me, my name is Luis Arias Blanco, just Luis, no body as many will say, is just that i am in desesperate need, maybe this will scare you away, but i trust God it won’t, i always have trust in my skills to do my job and make my living on it, but some how this last 2 years is been horrible, my friend has helped me a lot, and yes, i have helped her a lot, but as of now i own a not much but in my country is a lot, i have always trust in my job to get me the incomes i need, but for some reason specially this year is been prettty hard, can you help me? i don’t ask for much just $30K usd, to pay my debts, i really hope and this is true i have always dream to become like you and one day do what you are doing, right now i just can’t most of all, i dream that the day comes when i will be able to be an employer and give good salaries to my employes, help them to grow to feel happy working for me, yes i am a dreamer, yes many people wishes me the best, but when it comes to practical help, no one is there, i just one to reach your good heart i know i am not a non profit organization, but if you help me i know i can get to be on of them, i am not stupid i just need some one to believe in me enough to get me some practical help, please help me, i promise i will do my best to help other even if i hate someboy why? because i know that the best way to become useful is to help anyone who’s in great need, no references, no recognizitions expected no nothing i offer just my willingness to help just as much as you are doing, can you please make an exception and help me please just for you to know part of that money is to pay my landlord, the rest is to pay my debts to my very faithful friend, and get me some more time till i succed in my job, thing is, my landlord needs her money as in right now, please!!! my mail is: luis.sss@hotmail.es. thank you for taking time to read this

  17. Dear Mr. Feeney,

    I would like you to send me as much money as you can, a few million should do, to help pay off or buy up all the homes of the many hardworking people I know who are losing theirs, so I can return them to the people, due to the corruption of the people you probably associate with. In return I am going to tell you a secret, cause you seem to be a pretty ‘secretive’ guy, and I am feeling pretty generous this Christmas season.

    You see, while your businesses were given over to your philanthropy in that secret meeting in the Bahamas, I am pretty sure, but not certain, of course, not only did your businesses continue to make lots of money for you and your friends, but it also did so ‘tax free’, which means you cheated the people who had to make up those taxes , perhaps you were even given a federal grant on top of it, like most of the rich corporations here in the US who never use their own money to make more for themselves, and you made your money on the backs of the people, who were paid practically nothing, slave wages.

    Forbes says you don’t even own a home, but for some reason, something tells me you must live somewhere, and I started thinking, you probably don’t own a home, but I bet you occupy one owned by your “philanthropy”. Doesn’t matter one way or another to me, but at least you have a home, unlike the people I know with little children who are losing theirs, for no other reason than the folks you hang out with decided to ship all of the jobs overseas to enslave another group of people, while the people here keep losing their jobs…their homes….in some cases, their lives. Oh yeah, and I forgot…your friends were also doing some MAJOR nation-building and nation raping, under the guise of ‘war’ and ‘terrorism’. I wonder, did you help out with that ’cause’ also?

    And I also wonder if some Jesuit priest has promised you complete forgiveness for all of the corruption and dirty tricks that go on with the rich One World Order made ‘moguls’ of the world who pretend to be ‘philanthropists’, for a small donation for the ‘church’? This is important, Mr. Feeney…pay attention please.

    People like Bill Gates, who loves to harm the little children of the world, using poison vaccines while laundering money from his business and shareholders, to the pockets of the One World Order crew, pretending to be a philanthropist as well, or the Google guy, another One World Order made mogul, who gives their money to the phony Global Warming Scam…. you see, Mr. Feeney the ‘secret’ I wanted to tell you is, no matter what those ‘pretend’ servants of God tell you, they can’t forgive the sins against humanity that they let others commit for them. I didn’t want you to feel too comfortable in your old age, just in case you were one of those ‘pretend philanthropists too. God Bless you Mr. Feeney and please remember to ask the right ONE for forgiveness, it’s free…unlike that Jesuit guy..(wink wink)

    You can contact me here at Seek’s place, just in case you wanted to help me help the victims of the fraud of the bankers/politicians and their philanthropist friends.

    Sincerely,
    intrigued

  18. i only need 10 000 euros to start my own business because i can see that at my work i cant earn enough.i live in spain but i am ucrainian,my grandmother who is almost 80 is in Ucraine and i cant bring her here because lack of money.Thats why i want to start my own business but for it i need money.i am even ready to give it back coz i dont care all i want is my business going and my granny here.i also want to open a place to help homeless dogs and cats.Thank you and if someone reads it hope all your wishes come true. my email otyshyna@yahoo.es

  19. Mr. FEENEY, Best Wishes for the Hollidays. May GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS for all your good will and good works, and your spirit of giving. Sincerely, Robert James LAD Legal Advocacy for the Disabled and disadvantaged. 315 403 1146

    P.S. CORNELL UNIVERSITY is a wonderful well spring for new ideas and visions to make this a better a better world. Thank you for your support!

  20. Señor Feeney, no hablo Inglés, soy de sudamérica Argentina, de profesión abogada, ante nada quiero felicitarlo por su obra filantrópica, soy humilde pero tengo dignidad y no quiero pedirle dinero como leo en este blog que todos piden, sólo me gustaría que mis hijos puedan trabajar para Ud. y aprendan y sigan sus pasos, creo que es el mejor capital que les podría dejar, ellos estarían dispuestos, si es necesario a viajari a EEUU, IRLANDA, MEXICO, ITALIA, HOLANDA, ESPAÑA, AUSTRLIA o donde sea.-
    Mi mail es verrocchiof@yahoo.com.ar
    tel 54 11 6379 5082, muchas gracias por leerme.-

  21. Estimado Sr. Feeney:
    Nosotros necesitamos renovar una bodega antigua, de nuestros abuelos, que es la bodega más antigua de esta ciudad, y que si la renovamos será una fuente de trabajo enorme para muchas familias que necesitan y quieren trabajar, pero aqui no abunda el trabajo.
    Hasta podemos hacer un trato de devolverle su dinero en cuotas, pero ahora sería como algo mágico, usted tiene la varita mágica que puede cambiar la vida de muchas familias de esat perqueña localidad argentina, también queremos hacer un pequeño museo con las cosas que usaron nuestros abuelos, cuando la inauguraron en 1889.
    Creo que con 800.000 dólares, lo hacemos
    y le repito, se lo devolvemos en cuotas.
    Espero ansiosa su respuesta
    Gracias
    Norma

  22. Mr. Charles Feeney,

    I heard about your philantropy, I will be brief, my whole life I’ve wanted to meet and know the Buddhist wisdom to teach the man to surrender to suffering or to find out.
    I would like to enter the monastery of Nalanda in France at the basic program of Buddhism that lasts 5 years, but I need to pay 700 euros per month, which as a Mexican that is a fortune.

    In these days of Christmas, being very uneasy trying to get a job in Spain, to continue to have permission to be in the country and be able to save for the course and seeing no work at home, one of my family members told me about you and your philanthropy, and after much thought I decided to write, I have nothing, you do not lose anything and maybe I can win the goal I’ve always wanted.

    It can be many things more important, needs you can help fill, so I can understand any decision you make.

    I am a 51 year old woman, with a degree in Microbiology, which has been studying Buddhism 3 years in Spain, I am healing with energy from more than 16 years, and from a child I got very curious incongruity of the human mind, so I always wanted to know what happened to us and after 3 years of studying Buddhism, I surprised a lot of wisdom that is on the way the human being and the study on the mind, surprised me with a complete path from A to Z and all who are not fans or dogmatic.

    The only thing I can offer in return, are healing therapies in person or long distance, pujas, prayers and protections for you, that’s what I was doing with my mind.

    sincerly,
    Claudia

    Sr feeney

    escuche hablar sobre su filantropia, voy a ser breve, toda mi vida he deseado conocer y saber la sabiduria budista para enseñarle al ser humano a renunciar al sufrimiento o bien encontrar la salida al mismo. Me gustaria poder entrar al monasterio de Nalanda en Francia al programa basico de budismo que dura 5 años, pero para eso necesito pagar 700 euros mensuales, los cuales como mexicana eso es una fortuna.
    En estos dias de navidad estando muy inquieta tratando de conseguir un trabajo en España, para poder seguir teniendo permiso para estar en el paìs y poder ahorrar pues el curso empieza en el 2013, y viendo que no hay trabajo en el paìs, alguien de mi familia me comentò sobre usted, sobre su filantropia y despuès de mucho pensarlo me he decidido a escribirle, se que no tengo nada, se que no pierdo nada y tal vez pueda ganar la meta que siempre he querido.

    Se que puede haber muchas cosas con necesidades màs importantes, que usted pueda ayudar a cubrir, asi que puedo entender cualqueir decision que tome.

    soy una mujer de 51 años, con una carrera de Microbiologia, que lleva estudiando 3 años budismo en España , soy sanadora con energias, y desde niña me llamaba mucho la atenciòn la incongruencia de la mente humana, asi que siempre quise saber què pasaba con nosotros y despuès de 3 años de estudiar budismo, me he sorprendido mucho de la sabidurìa que tiene sobre el camino del ser humano y el estudio que tiene sobre la mente, me sorprendio que tienen un camino completo de la A a la Z y sobre todo que no son fanàticos ni dogmaticos.

    Lo unico que puedo ofrecer a cambio son terapias de sanacion presenciales o de larga distancia, puyas, oraciones y protecciones para usted que es lo que yo se hacer con mi mente.

    Gracias.
    Claudia

  23. Solamente felicitar a quien hace el bien,gacias a nombre de todos lo afligidos.

  24. NECESITO AYUDA ECONOMICA,SOY PADRE DE 3 HIJOS QUE VIVEN CONMIGO,NECESITO COMO 8,000.DLLS PARA PODER SACAR ADELANTE A MIS HIJOS,SON ESTUDIANTES LOS 3 Y CON ESO DEL DIVORCIO ME VI EN LA NECESIDAD DE VENDER LO POCO QUE TENIAMOS, ESPERO ME PUEDA AYUDAR.

    SALUDOS Y QUE ESTE BIEN

  25. Mr Feeney was a saint and gave to those in need, were he not born then so many would have never had the chance to live and in turn give to those who also had needs.
    Its a shame that so many people run him down. Instead they should direct their negativism to corrupt politicians and businessmen whose only aim is to make money and keep it for themselves in the false hope that they are somehow protected.
    Well done Mr. Feeney and you definitively have a place in heaven among the saints for which purpose you were born.

  26. I am reading his book now, and I am so motivated by what he did. I know God will certainlly bless him and his familly. I have nothing but I tried to give what I can and just reading his book just gives me the drive and the energy to go the extra mile. Lots of love to you and your family.

  27. pathetic.

  28. Mr. Feeney
    I am a friend of Tom Engle, who said he is a childhood friend of yours. Tom is currently in very poor health and would really like to get in touch with you. Please get in touch with me at your earliest convenience.

  29. From Michigan,
    Keeper Of The Children Charity
    501(c) (3)
    22130 Donaldson St. Dearborn, Michigan 48124
    We are a not-for-profit charity feeding and clothing those who need assistance. We have located a building for a morning (soup-kitchen)
    We are in need of funding. We wrote to Mr. Feeney by way of the Atlantic Philanthropies but have yet to hear a response. We are seeking two years of funding to cover the purchase of groceries for the kitchen and food baskets and snack packs for under privileged children. We need to cover payroll and the cost of the building, utilities and marketing plus fund raising expenses. We hope you will find us and assist… Hope is …..asking!!!

    • damn… there’s hardly anything lower than someone who lies about feeding hungry children in order to stash a few dollars in their pocket. dearborn has several soup kitchens already (including lillies) as well as both church and govt based services – what’s the point of creating an all-new infrastrucutre? oh, right – bux from “philanthropists” …

  30. Hello I’m pleased to here that a man with all the money in the world feels that u can’t take it with u so y not spread joy to those unfortunate. I’m a blackman living in a oppressed economy everyday I’m looking for work. But due to my chooses in the past being incarcerated for hustling to live. It’s hard right now I’m just contempt being healthy and beimg a family man

    • Also if u can help me in this unfortunate time will be a great blessing 1 million is all I need to help my family in these hard times

  31. It would be an honor to hear from Mr. Feeny Jrmeelnc@yahoo.com.

  32. For a normal life

    Hi Mr. Charles F. Feeney, it’s probably obvious why most of us are on here and I will kindly get to the point so there isn’t much to read. I’m only asking for a very small portion of your fortune and I am willing to work it off by doing some chores for you. I have a foreign spouse I would love to live with and be with, and no amount of work in America can help me stay with her happily. About $20,000-$25,000 is pretty much all I’m looking for just so I can enjoy the common luxury of being with my wife as other Americans do today who are happily married. I’ve been with my spouse for 6 years, and in those 6 years I made 7 visits to be with her. Her country is a cheap place to live in, so that small amount will due. I have pictures and supporting evidence to back up everything I am saying. I still talk to my wife daily on skype and we yearn to be together. It will be in my deepest gratitude if you can help us, and like I said. I am willing to work it off. I rarely resort to begging unless I absolutely have to, but I read your article of trying to expunge all your funds by year 2016, and my request will assist you in that goal.

    I hope you get this message, and if you come to this website often my number is: 832-893-8948 if you prefer to contact me telephonically.

    -Al

  33. gud day, pls i want to beg you to please assist me financialy so that i can go for my degree programme. pls i have no one to assist me and i dont want my dream of having a degree programme to be shattered. pls sir, help me.

  34. I am a mother of three please I’m struggling. We need a home. I have a restaurant business idea I would like to open up. My kids want a chance in life. Please help me. rltuckerjobs@gmail.com

  35. Hello Mr. Charles F. Feeney
    I would be grateful for any help. http://www.gofundme.com/1pcggg or http://helpopen.com/

    Thank you for time and consideration,
    Sergey

    • damn, i got my check from mr. feeny months ago, i wonder why he isnt’ helping the rest of you. my plea for starup funds for a new gourmet weenie roastery (artisan, of course) didn’t fall on deaf ears. thanks mr. feeny!!!!

      • Chuck really needs to come online and handle these requests. I feel like his secretary!

      • LMAO, this was one time it was well worth getting the Chuck Feeney update in my email, why I get them, I have no idea, but this reply made my day. :) err umm good luck with that artisan weenie wagon…

        and Seeker, if I was you, I’d just start billing Feeney, screw em…all the rich want cheap labor, but this is more than ridiculous, you’ve more than put in your time for the cheapskate :)

      • he owes me big time and he wont even drop in and say hello..should never have posted that story! :)

  36. “All i need is one million” You people are crazy thinking this man will respond to any of your requests. He’s got better things to do.

  37. Well mister Feeney.. do you think you can help is stage 3 terminal lung cancer patient out.. I would like to move to Naples Florida.. and I need a ride to chemotherapy every 3 weeks.. my doctors will give me the go ahead.. can you help me find a place.. I also need to bring my cats.. I just want to be in the warmness.. well nevertheless I’m going to go

  38. anyone can contact me at..mpcthecook@gmail.com.. I believe I can beat this cancer.. I have a 3.5 chance of survival.. so why can’t I be the 3.5.. I can.. chemotherapy every 3 weeks sucks.. I would rather do it in a sunny place in Naples Florida.. I need to find a chauffeur as well to drive me to chemotherapy every 3 weeks

  39. I had the joy to meet Chuck Feeney when I was a teenager. My parents had met Chuck when he was setting up DFS. My parents were also in the luxury goods import business in Asia way back in the 70′s. I will never forget him. I wanted to go to a Ivy league college and Chuck wanted to do everything to help me get into Cornelll. My SAT’s were not good enough. I remember visiting his family home in St Jean Cap Ferrat in the south of France. I also knew his fabulous daighter Leslie while I worked in Hong Kong. I just finished reading the Billionaire Who Almost Wasn’t and it really touched me. What a legend. He inspiries me

  40. hello mr.feeney my name is william shepherd. i live in the united states. i have worked hard all my life but now i face losing my home and everything i own. i have never asked for help before but i really do not know what else to do. if i could pay my house off then that would be a great help. im aking for 50,000 us dollars. if you can help i would greatly apperciate it. my e-mail adress is shepherd@duo-county.com
    i hope i can get a reply before i have to cancell my internet. thank you ang god bless

  41. Hola Sr. Charles F. Feeney, saludos mi nombre es gustavo uscanga me dirijo a usted respetuosamente soy presidente de una asociacion civil en mexico la razon por la que me atrevo a dirijirme a usted es por la necesidad de mi asociacion para poder seguir con nuestra labor de rescatar personas con adicciones tanto quimicas como emocionales requerimos de un espacio digno para poder hacer nuestra labo de ser posible que pudiera apoyarnos necesitamos $50,000 Dolrs para comprar una casa y adecuarla a nuestras necesidades de ser esto posible le mando mis datos
    gustavo uscanga
    email. gusuzcanga@yahoo.com.mx
    cel 55-27-82-30-34
    55-38-88-81-19
    sin mas por el momento quedo de usted su seguro servidor.

  42. gracias mil

  43. hello mr.feeney, God bless you. Its not easy to part with money but I know you have your aim for doing that. If it is also aimed at helping the poor to educate, then you have anther place to consider in Africa, Ghana. I will be very glad if people in my hometown ravaged by poverty have their only Basic school block built to modern standards and also helped to make their children enter into secondary schools after their basic education. Sir life is hell some where and God will richly bless you if this king gesture is given these peopleThank you.

  44. Bonjour Monsieur Feeney, je suis Agnès Creuzé-Lagrolet
    J’ai de si bons souvenirs de toute votre famille dans les années 70 à Blanche de Castille. Je voulais reprendre contact. Je cherche désespérément à la faire et je n’ai trouvé que ce site où je pouvais vous écrire. à bientôt j’espère
    Vous pouvez me contacter

  45. Dear Mr Feeney,
    I read about who you are and your deeds and I could not believe it. Sir, I am really drowning and cannot seem to be able to do anythi8ng to stop it. I used to have a house but I had to sell it due to several scammings and family problems. I am not young anymore but I tried not to give up and keep trying but nobody seems to help you when you are living in a street dweller institution. I could get back on my feet again, I am sure if only someone could lend a a charitable hand to help. But nobody seems to care. My goungest son is on drugs and I do not know what to do to help him.
    Only gentle and humanitarian people like you can stop me from going down the drain definitively. Perhaps the Lord may talk to you as He is talking to me trying to save me. Sir, thank the Lord for people like you. Thank you

  46. Dear Mr. Fenney,

    Greetings from North Carolina, USA! I am not too surprised that you are dubbed the “World’s Greatest Philanthropist,” because I am a product of Irish philanthrophy in my native Liberia, West Africa. You happen to be an Irish-American, and the LORD knows how many men and women of Irish descent have positively changed troubled and broken lives on planet earth!

    In 1938, Irishman John Finlay and his wife Isabel arrived in Flumpa Town, a village in remote Nimba County (north-central Liberia), where they met young Nyan Suah Gompah of the local Mano tribe — who would later become my father. By 1939, World War II broke out and cut off all communication with the West, and also completely stopped all critical support (funds, food, clothing and accessories, etc.) to the Finlays and their fellow rural faith-based workers who helped change the lives of unbelievably poor rural Liberians…in excess if 50,000 between 1938 and 1989 when the 14-year Liberian civil wars began.

    The Finlays hired Gompah as a “tribal foot-runner” (messenger for the next seven years (1939-1945) to help them survive. He would walk the 200-mile bush footpaths between Flumpa Town and Monrovia, (Liberian Capital City), two weeks to and fro, to buy suplies in Monrovia and transport them to Flumpa Mission which the Finlays had built. He retired after the war, settled down in Flumpa Town, married and started a family.

    I was born to the union of Nyan Suah Gompah and Yah Lueway Menzee-Gompah on January 1, 1947. Six years later, my Dad took me to Irishmen John Finlay and Charles Wesley Bell at nearby Flumpa Mission, with a simple request: “PLEASE TAKE CARE OF MY SON AND PUT HIM THROUGH SCHOOL FOR ME.” The Irishmen wasted no time in “adopting” me into ther respective family, as a token of their deep appreciation to my Dad for standing by and with them, through thick and thin, during the long difficult war years. In fact, they told me that when they ran out of money and food…my Dad went hunting and fishing, and also dug out wild palm cabbage for their meals. He promised to stay and help the expatriates; and proved to be a young man of his words.

    Daddy and Mama had no benefit of formal education, but they had a vision and a plan that their first son (referring to me) represented that glimmer of hope for a better future. And they were so right. Educated, mentored and nurtured by the Finlays and the Bells at nearby Flumpa Mission, I would go on to become everything my parents could never dream of:

    *EDUCATED IN MY NATIVE LIBERIA AND THE USA (with earned academic degrees in Communications, Enlish, Poltiical Science/Anthropology, Comparative Religon, and International Development/Nonprofit Management;

    *LIBERIAN-AMERICAN VETERAN BROADCAST JOURNALIST (14 years in the field back in Liberia) — including being an early NASA era celebrity when, on 20 July 1969, I anchored a special news coverage of American astronaut Neil Armstrong’s historic “MOON LANDING” — beamed to the African continent from studios in Monrovia, Libeira..I was only 22 yars old that year!

    *PAST DISTINGUISHED LIBERIAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL (former Assistant Minister of State for Presidential Affairs and former Presidential Press Secretary to the Libeiran Head of State).

    *YOUNGEST MEMBER of Liberia’s famed “Deshield Commisison on National Unity” (1974-1978)…appointed, at age 27, by Liberian President William R. Tolbert Jr. to a 51-member peace commission created by the Libeiran Legislature almost on the brink of the nearly 24-year brutal military revoluton (1980-2003).

    HONORED FOR “DISTINGUISHED SERVICES TO AFRICA AND HUMANITY” (by the governments of Li beria and Sudan).

    For the last 30 years (since 1982), I have lived and worked among uprooted war-ravaged Africans in the United States (including an estimated 500,000 Liberian immigrants and naturalized U.S. citizens) as well as needy host families, “Meeting the Whole Need of the Whole Person” through BASILEIA MISSIONS INC (which I founded in 1982). Our Mission and leadership have been recognized and commended by an array of distinguished American leaders and reputable organizations, among them…the U.S. Preident’s Council on Service and Civic Participation; former Vice President Dick Cheney; former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton (when she was U.S. Senator from NewYork); and former New York State Governor George Pataki, among many others.

    FAST FORWARD TO TODAY…

    Now based at our small headquarters in rural Youngsville, North Carolina (Southeastern USA), BASILEIA …under my leadership…is on a radical mission to build a “New Liberia” out of the ashes of war. Our vision is to establish BASILEIA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY (an Integrated Values-Driven Results-Oriented University of Global Education, Professinal Studies, Workforce Preparation, and Sustainable Community/International Development)…on two cooperative campuses in America and Nimba County (north-central Liberia) where the recent civil wars did the most damage. Nearly one million people in that remote region main badly battered, bruised, broken, bereaved, bereft and baffled — literally in tears and tatters as they hold on to dear life, like the last breath, in an unforgiving terrain!

    Personally, I am on a misison to continue and build upon the RICH LEGACY of Irishmen John Finlay and Charles Wesley Bell, as well as that of my parents, to develop the old 200-acre Flumpa Mission Station into a catalyst for positive lasting change amidst total human brokenness. When fully developed over the next ten years (2013-2023)…dubbed “DECADE OF DESTINY”…BASILEIA RESCUE MISSION in remote Nimba County (north-central Liberia) shall creatively discover and effextively address the ROOTS of human problems in the neediest and emptiest of places. We shall do so by preparing POSITIVE CHANGE AGENTS whose personal, public and professional lives are shaped, informed, guided, distinguished and driven by a THREEFOLD MANIFESTO:

    *SCHOLARSHIP —–For the Head
    *SPIRITUALITY — –For th Heart
    *SERVICE ————For the Hands

    For just a small fraction of billions of dollars being spent each year in Africa on DISASTERS & RELIEF — pallitive stopgap which would not solve the root causes of human problems — we can establish and operate BASILEIA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY and its rlated BEST Schools (Basileia Educational System for Transformation) on two cooperative campuses in America and Liberia in order to give people “hope and a future.” Perhaps the best description of our unique unfolding comprehensive (top-to-bottom) educational system is as follows:

    “A NEW DOOR, HINGED ON TRAGEDY…that can change Africa within ten years… develop leaders for the next generation and cast a bright, unfailing light into the future. YOU CAN BE PART OF THIS GRAND INITIATIVE.” –TEN3, a USA-based BASILEIA Educational Partner.

    HERE IS A CAUSE YOU CAN CHAMPION! PLEASE CONTACT US TODAY!

    Mobile: 919-621-7560
    E-Mail: jrbasileia@yahoo.com
    Webste: http://www.basileiamissionsinc.org

    OUR DIVINE MANDATE:

    “You’ll use the old rubble of past lives to build anew, rebuild the foundations from out of your past. You’ll be known as those who can fix anything, restore old ruins, rebuild and renovate,make the community livable again” (Isaiah 58:12, The Message).

    THE TROUBLE WE SEE:

    “Liberia’s edcational system has produced too many dropouts at the primary and secondary levels; ,ill-trained and uncreative secondary school graduates; and alienated university graduates. In Liberia, as in many other developing nations, government employment is the principal source of income for the elite. The costs of running the government improse heavy financial burdens on the rest of the country.” — Martn Lowenkopf

    PLEASE HELP CHANGE THE DIRECTION BY BUILDING A “NEW LIBERIA” OUT OF THE ASHES OF WAR! We at BASILEIA envision for post-conflict Liberia a new breed of citizenry and leadership intensely guided by the following Principle of Values:

    “LEAD A QUIET LIFE…MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS…WORK WITH YOUR OWN HANDS…DEPEND ON NOBODY” (Based on 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12).

    THANKS AND BLESSINGS!

  47. I really could not read all that came above, the only thing I know is that if Mr Feeney is the world´s greatest philanthropist, I would be in awful need of his help but I do not know how to even begin contacting such an important. person.
    I am in the hands of people who want money from me that I do not have at all as I am totally broke and people who say they will help me and make me wait and wait and do nothing at all. While I go down the drain. am homeless and live on the township charity.
    Only the Lord knows what I am going through as nobody else would believe it.
    I am glad Mr Feeney is such a philanthropist as the world really needs more people like him but what would never happen is a real perosnal contact.

  48. Wishing you well, and many blessings for you and family. I give thanks to my Savior and for working at place I love as a School Librarian,. I hope to move our library ahead in technology and make available new books, computer, and ebooks, we no longer get my government funding. I would love to give away books to underserved families. I would love to pay for my son’s nursing education. I would love you to just, keep your faith first. Sincerely, Livvy

    • WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE…for posting the various comments on the generosity of Charles “Chuck” Fenney? Does Mr. Fenney have access to these comments so as to be able to determine the orignality and viability of some new projects …in need of funding…which could creatively discover and effectively address the ROOT CAUSES of human problems? If not, may I suggest that as an added mission for  “FOLLOW THE MONEY.”   J. Railey

       

      • i did a blog post on feeney..ever since then i receive comments asking feeney for money because they think he visits this site(which i am sure he doesnt..i dont know)..im not going to delete the comments so i just ignore them most of the time..i have tried to tell people this but they dont read back at the previous comments..

      •  THAT’S PRECISELY MY POINT! Mr. Fenney is deeply concerned  about tackling real human problems in order to facilitate future sustainability for the marginalized. His foundation, through which he has funded projects in excess of  6 billion dollars in the last 30 years, will be folding very soon.

        If I were you, I would help connect Mr. Fenney with the comments so he could make up his mind about underwriting supporting for some of these REAL CAUSES —giving a handup (not a handout). Otherwise, your good intentions could become a fruitless exercise in the long run.

        NOTE THIS: The authors of these comments may never have access to Mr. Fenney nor the Board that governs Atlantic Philanthropies. Without name recognition and/or liaison, they’ll never get to Mr. Fenney. Think through the concept; and do something. No amount of rationalizing your posts will help the neediest in the emptiest of places. But thanks anyway!

        YOU’LL APPRECIATE MY CONCERN, IF YOU CAREFULLY READ MY ORIGINAL POST.

         

      • to be honest i never set out to be a conduit for people to get access to feeney..if someone like yourself would like to let him or his organization know via whatever means feel free to..thanks

      •  Well, then WHAT CAUSE did you set out to champion? Your extensive web presence could come handy here. Think about it. YOU WOULD BE GLAD YOU DID!

         

  49. mother of three having a very difficult time with employment. If Mr Feeney does read this one day. I really need your help especially if you want to give away to a good cause-my kids. We need a home.

  50. Dear Mr. Charles F. Feeney .I am not very good in english writing ,because i am not American or English…so i will continue writing in my language and if you have time maybe ,you have someone to translate to you…if not…that is ok. Δεν γνωρίζω με τι κριτήρια επιλέγετε ποίον θα βοηθησετε και πως…Αυτό που γνωρίζω είναι ότι θα έπρεπε να εκτιμαμε την ελευθερία μας και να μην την υποθηκεύουμε, ειδικα αν έχουμε και παιδία .Επίσης ειναι μεγάλη απρέπεια να ζητας κάτι απο κάποιον…κυριώς όταν αυτός ο κάποιος δεν σου χρωστάει τίποτα…Κλείνω το σημείωμα με ένα ωραίο γνωμικό που λέει..”Αμα τα αμπάρια του μυαλού με γνώσεις τα γεμίσεις
    οσα και να’ρθουν δύσκολα θα τ’αντιμετωπίσεις” που σημαίνει οτι σαφώς και θα επιβιώσουμε εκτός και αν είμαστε απαίδευτοι.Ευχαριστώ.

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