Did the Roman Empire become the Roman Catholic Church?

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Vatican City is a landlocked state within the city of Rome, Italy. It is governed by the Bishop of Rome (called the Pope).

It is the smallest sovereign state in the world.

Caesar Constintine began the “corporate takeover” by renaming all the old Roman offices, this evolution of name changing still occurs. Name changing allows a person to hide their tracks of origin.

Roman Empire offices & their modern names:

Roman Empire (Imperium Romanum) renamed: Roman Catholic Church

Curia (legal body of Senators) slight name change: Curia (legal body of Cardinals)

Roman Emperor renamed: Roman Pope (head of all church and state affairs)

Civil government matters of state: Extra-Ordinary affairs (matters of civil-state governments)

Religious orders matters: Church “ecclesiastical” matters

Roman College of Senators renamed: College of Cardinals

Magistrate of College of Senators renamed: Dean of College of Cardinals

Departments of the Roman Senatorial Curia renamed: Congregations

Political Ambassador renamed: Pro-Nuncio (highest civil ambassador sent to other governements, ie Wash.DC, London etc)

If a government has not signed a treaty with Rome which makes the Romans the head of the foreign country as certified in the Roman Code of Canon Law. This rebel nation which has no official ties has an ambassador called an Apostolic Delegate. The United States and the United Kingdom never allowed the Vatican to serve as their legal head until President Reagan quickly signed into law on January 10, 1984. This Treaty for the very first time in U.S. history recognized full diplomatic relations between the United States and the Vatican State.

In 1534 when the United Kingdom realized that the Treaty with the Vatican City-State made them subject to all the Popes rules they voided the treaty. Formal plomatic relations between England and Vatican State were broken. Full diplomatic relations with the the Pope’s Vatican State were never restored for 448 years until 1982.

Roman Senators renamed: Cardinals

Roman Governors renamed: Archbishops

Roman Senator with no territory: Bishop (Code of Canon Law 376)

(Large) Roman Province renamed: Archdiocese

(Small) Roman Territory renamed: Diocese

Imperial Chair of Jupiter where Caesar sat renamed: Throne of St. Peter

Vestal Virgins renamed: Nuns

Pontifex Maximus (high priest of College of Senators) renamed: Supreme Pontiff of College of Cardinals

Pontiff or “high priest ” of a pagan religious order (Zues, Apollo, Diana, Mars, Jupiter, Baal, Dionysys, Pythia etc) same name: Pontiff

A Pontiff (Latin: “pontifex”) means bridge-builder or priest between man and the gods of the underworld.

The Roman Calender and Holy Days of the gods renamed: Calendar Holidays of the Saints

Voice of the gods speaking through Caesar: Ex-Cathedra: Voice of God speaking through Pope

Meeting of the Pontiffs (high priests) of the pagan religious orders renamed: Ecumenical Council of the Bishops

Legal act of creating a god (of a living or dead human, as was done to most of the Caesars) “Apotheosis of the Gods” renamed: Canonization of the Saints

A decree of Caesar (dictator for life): Pope’s infalliable Dogma

Praying to a dead human god renamed: Praying to a saint

In the US the highest law of the land is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, in the Vatican State the Constitution is called the Code of Canon Law.

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well did they?

a good argument is made here by the author..

401

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~ by seeker401 on November 23, 2009.

19 Responses to “Did the Roman Empire become the Roman Catholic Church?”

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  2. Rome has become the Catholic church! Why is it so hard to see?The Roman church has engaged itself in a series of wars to liberate constaninople and Jerusalem .The Roman church called it a Holy war but where in all that Jesus wrote about was there ever anything about waging war on unbelievers?Also Rome under the Catholic church fought the eastern empire in its “holy war” they rome sacked constaninople and murdered fellow christians in the name of the catholic church.These acts have soured relations with orthodox church for centuries and most people when a person brings up that they are christian most people who are not christian bring up the bloody history of the Catholic Church ! The Catholic Church the way it acts in the past and now show that the Roman Empire has never ended! I believe the catholic church has fooled over a billion people into believing that the catholic church is ordained by God and no doubt there are good people who are within the ranks of the catholic church but the hierarchy of the church is built upon a bloody past of holy wars and inquisitions against christian as well as jewish people suffered mightily as this “christian” church ? destryed them! No,the Roman empire has always been with us ,can a lepord change his spots?Can Rome hide its brutal self and call itself a church?

  3. thank you! I thought i was the only one who knew this for 5 damn years. my research was right ugh. now only if people can now link the rest of history to paint the picture. their is more to this then you know trust me now just think about Hitler and him thinking he was Alexander the great reborn…. anyway thank you!

  4. Funny I am watching “Mankind The story of all of us” and reading Thomas Penn’s book “Winter King” The Dawn of the Tudor England and suddenly it hit me! Roman Empire = Roman Catholic Church. I kind of feel foolish never having this thought before. Good little piece of writing. Definitely something worth looking into. What a great trick if it’s true. Reminds me of the saying the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn’t exist.

    • yeah i like that last sentence..pertinent..

      i am a believer that rome never went away..it just became the RCC..and the usa is another extension of this..rome wasnt built in a day and its never faded away..

  5. i wrote a essay about this way back in highschool. the roman empire is the roman catholic church. In 800ad the pope even named charlemagne the holy roman emperor. so obviously they had that power

  6. I have come to this realization in just the last few years. I left the church in 1969. I am now 82 years old. For years I was angry at the church for the control of me and the rules that ultimately killed my wife because of our adherence to those rules. The church made a sin of almost every action a human can express. I did not search the web until today ( 2/28/13) so
    I amextremely happy that I have learned and have my cofirmation that there are others oout there who think that I know that the Roman Catholic Church is the continuation of the Roman Empire. The trappings and titles of the church are also a confirmation of my thinking. Thank you.

    • your welcome edward..when studied it starts to look very obvious..rome didnt die off..it just changed its design..and rome came from egypt and romans founded the UK and the UK created the USA..religion CAN be used as a controlling tool..no doubt..and thats not confined to the RCC only..all of the religions of the world are open to being used..legalism is the tool..

  7. To seeker 401:
    I am incredibly elightened by your pointing out the similarities between the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church of the nomenclature of
    religious titles of the clergy and other similarities. I would like you to
    take it a bit farther and see if the vestments a priest puts on before he says
    mass are a carry over from the Roman Empire rituals. I was an altar boy when I was young and I wondered why all these garments were required.
    If you haven’t already seen it go to Netflix and get the documentary
    “Zeitguist” (sp?). It has a wonderful segment on religion and calls one to the
    attention that the RMC is based on sun worship. Notice that the day of
    worship was not the Jewish day (Friday/Saturday). Note that the RMC
    Day of worship is SUNday. Also, for the longest time I thought christ was Jesus’s last name. I believe christ means the annointed one and is a Greek word. Also, The name Jesus was used infrequently; it was almost always
    christ. Is confession also a Roman ritual, and benedicton and etc. of many other practices carried over from the Roman Empire rituals?

    I hope you taker my challenge.

    • Yes I have seen zeitgeist. The movie is good but also was made with a certain agenda in mind. But it does show some truth.

      You will note the 3 great religions of the world all have priests who wear dresses. Islam, Christianity and Jewry. That’s significant.

      Yes the sabbath was changed to SUNday. There is a lot of celestial symbolism in the RCC. Many of the rituals are pagan based and would have come from Egypt and then to Rome and then into the Vatican. I was always told there was one god and not to worship man yet this is the direct opposite to the RCC who want you to worship the pope as god and pray to the Virgin Mary and the thousands of statues they have of her.

    • The confessional is not biblical and was a control tool and also a perfect blackmail tool. The great ploy of the Jesuits was blackmail.

      I believe that the RCC and its billion followers are 99% genuine people who want to be Christians but are being led away from what was originally Christianity.

      There are also similarities with the Isis Horus Set story and the story of Jesus which you may like to research. You will see the letters IHS in the RCC all the time.

      Be inquisitive and search for truth but don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. And keep in mind that sometimes people like the zeitgeist makers are pushing an agenda of their own as well.

  8. Yes, I have also begun to think that the Pope of Rome and the RCC were and are the continuation of the Caesars and the Roman Empire, if not in actual bloodlines, they are in spirit, as it is called the Holy Roman Empire in history, with the Pope crowning kings such as Charlemagne of France, and ordering the “Holy” Crusades, un-Christlike wars, against the Mohammedans, and criticizing Mohammed as violent by Pope Benedict who just retired, with his successor, Argentine born Cardinal Bogolio of Italian descent, now Pope Francis. Yet the way the POpe and Cardinals wear those skull caps and keep the dead crucified body of Jesus on the Cross makes me think that the RCC is Judaistic, Jewish, a huge branch religion of the Old Testament, not New as all. Where do they portray the Resurrected Jesus as much?
    Yet even further, observing the U.S. Capitol buildings and other U.S. States’ capitol architecture, it is mostly so Roman in design, even a greater expansion of ancient Rome, with the whole government designed just like the Caesars = President, senators = senators, and congressman = the publicans or whatever they were called in Rome, and most deadly serious is the American worldwide military empire of 1,000 military bases all over the world controlling the smallest to the greatest of nations – now transformed into Babylon the Whore and her harlots, with her ultimate capital that great city Jerusalem which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified: read Revelation 11:8; Rev 16, 17, 18, and back in Isaiah and Jeremiah the prophets writing of Babylon and Jerusalem and Jesus Himself, what He spoke about the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem.
    Read Revelation, Daniel, Matthew 24, New Testament Epistles of the Apostles, and so many Old Testament books to connect the dots that becomes the circle of history, from the beginning to the Ending.

  9. Rome and the Italian peninsula was conquered by the barbarians (the Germans) a few centuries after Christ, ending the Roman Empire in the West. The Roman Empire did continue in the East (the Greek world) with Constantinople as the capital. This became the peaceful and devout Christian civilisation which we now call Byzantium and the Eastern Orthodox Churches. They preserved original Christianity and were never involved in crusades, inquisitions and all of the violence, destruction and ‘reforms’ that we associate with “The Roman Catholic Church” (which is really the German Barbarian conquerers of Rome Church), in fact they were victims of much violence and persecution at the hands of “Catholicism”. So remember, the Roman Empire organically became Byzantium Orthodox in the East. In the West it was violently changed to the Germanic barbarian church which today has the name “Roman Catholic” – not to be confused with the ancient Roman Empire, and not to be confused with the real Greek world “Catholic” which means Christian fullness – which can be found in Orthodox churches.

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