Julian Assange: “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11″
There are not many journalists who, when you ask them if they are being followed by the CIA, say “We have surveillance events from time to time.” Actually it’s not a question I’ve ever asked before, and Julian Assange does not call himself a journalist.
But the answer is typical of this 41-year-old former computer-hacker: cryptic, dispassionate, and faintly self-important.
As the founder of Wikileaks – a website that publishes millions of documents, from military intelligence to internal company memos and has, in four years, exposed more secrets than many newspapers have in a century – Assange has become the pin-up of web-age investigative journalists. The US has wanted him for questioning since March, after he posed a video showing an American helicopter attack that left several Iraqi civilians and two Reuters journalists dead.
Understandably, he now avoids the US, and keeps his movements secret, though it’s thought he operates out of Sweden and is spending time in Iceland, where a change in the law is creating a libel-free haven for journalists. But if the CIA spooks wanted him that badly, couldn’t they have turned up, as a hundred adoring student journalists did, to hear him talk at the Centre for Investigative Journalism 10 days ago?
Perhaps it’s just as well they didn’t, as Assange is not a natural public speaker. He is more at home trawling data or decrypting the codes that mask it. His philosophy is that the more a government wants to keep something secret, the more reason to expose it. No journalist could argue with his essential belief in shining a light on malpractice, but shouldn’t governments be entitled to keep some secrets? “Sure,” he says when we speak after his talk, “That doesn’t mean we and other press organisations should suffer under coercion.”
What if publishing a document would threaten national security? “This phrase is so abused. Dick Cheney justified torture with it. Give me an example.” What about the movement of US troops? Would he publish a document that jeopardised their safety? “We’d have to think about it.” So that’s a yes? “It’s not a yes. If that fit into our editorial criteria – which it might, if it was an extremely good movement – then we’d have to look at whether that needed a harm minimisation procedure. We’d be totally happy to consider jeopardising the initiation of a war, or the action of war. Absolutely.”
He may speak like a robot, and have a politician’s knack at ducking straight answers, but in the flesh he could be a forgotten member of Crowded House, all ripped jeans and crumpled jacket, his distinguished white hair framing a youthful face. His grungy look ties in with his outsider status: he has a deep-rooted mistrust of authority. It has been speculated this comes from a youthful brush with the family courts after he divorced the mother of his son, though little is really known about his early life.
His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? “I believe in facts about conspiracies,” he says, choosing his words slowly. “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there’s enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news.” What about 9/11? “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” What about the Bilderberg conference? “That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes.”
Assange likes to see Wikileaks as a neutral platform for distributing information, and fends off criticism by saying it always follows its openly stated policies. But no news organisation is free from personal input, as he reveals when talking of Bilderberg, a shadowy annual conference of the influential. “I understand the philosophical rationale for having Chatham House rules among people in power, but the corrupting nature, in the case of Bilderberg, probably outweighs the benefits. When powerful people meet together in secret, it tends to corrupt.”
Spending time with Assange, it’s hard not to start believing that dark forces are at work. According to him, everyone’s emails are being read. For that reason, he encourages anyone planning to leak a document to post it the old fashioned way, to his PO Box. It’s ironic that an organisation bent on blowing secrets is itself so secretive, but Wikileaks couldn’t operate without reliable sources. Except that, amazingly, Wikileaks does not verify them. “We don’t verify our sources, we verify the documents. As long as they are bona fide it doesn’t matter where they come from. We would rather not know.”
After we talk, he is off to a safe house for the night and after that, who knows? He never stays in one place more than two nights. Is that because the CIA wants to kill him? “Is it in the CIA’s interest to assassinate me? Maybe. But who would do it?” Isn’t he brave to appear in public? “Courage is an intellectual mastery of fear,” he says. “It’s not that you don’t have fear, you just manage your risks intelligently.”
My response is always: TREAT EVERY SOURCE AS DISINFO.
You’ll avoid disappointment when the thing starts serving up rat poison – which, unfortunately, happens a lot.
I haven’t shared this before, but in early 2008, someone from WikiLeaks wrote to me. This person wondered why I hadn’t mentioned WikiLeaks on Cryptogon. He wondered if maybe I hadn’t heard of it, or had concerns that it was a front of some sort.
I simply wrote back that I was aware of WikiLeaks, and that I was hopeful and skeptical at the same time.
That remains my stance today; on WikiLeaks and every other source.
So, who knows… I’ve read interesting things on WikiLeaks, many of which I have linked to from here. Does that mean that I’m sure it’s not some kind of front or honeypot? Not at all. How could I know for sure, given what’s knowable in the public domain about WikiLeaks?
Julian Assange’s recent comment in the Belfast Telegraph about 9/11, however, may be a more tangible source of concern for me. I know Assange isn’t an idiot, so I see three other possibilities:
- He is profoundly ignorant of the vast body of material that demonstrates that the 9/11 spectacle was a false flag operation.
- He’s “picking his battles” and not wanting to have to deal with the inevitable conspiracy theory stigma that could threaten his media access
- He’s running a limited hangout/honeypot
Of these three options, I doubt that it’s number two.
Also, I’m aware of all the stuff John Young has up over at Cryptome from some anonymous mole on a private WikiLeaks list. Again, who knows.
Vet the data as you would anything else from any source. Use your skills of discernment. For me, the most worrying thing about WikiLeaks is the promotion it receives from the corporate media. Even the trash talking Wired is promoting Wikileaks by constantly mentioning it.
In the end, though, obsessing about disinfo this and disinfo that is generally a waste of time. It’s safe to assume that damn near everything we come across contains disinfo.
There is the issue of stench, however. Sources that say, categorically, that there’s nothing to see here on 9/11 smell really bad to me. As bad as anything can smell. (See my maggot bucket if you think that I don’t know what smells bad.)
We just saw the WikiLeaks release of the Afghanistan information, does Assange forget the pretext that was used for the invasion?
9/11 remains the elephant in the room.
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the jury is back in..the verdict..guilty..assange is guilty of being a CIA spook..why else would you say the 911 fable was a false conspiracy..its the f******* biggest one ever!!
wikileaks released collateral murder a few months ago..maybe to get some credibility for what was to come..this stinks like a set up..with pakistan the loser..and of course real truth..who the hell do you believe these days??
wikileaks has been mentioned everywhere all over the world..thats co-ordinated..CFR anyone?
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here in this cfr article “they’ say that “they’ know that info and US too is and other attack at OUR intellect
here is “they’ article i guess never out of sigth ‘they’ taking care of booth sides by history and assange imo number one agent provocateur is at rothchild game damn again and again
http://www.cfr.org/publication/22696/wikileaks.html?breadcrumb=%2Fpublication%2Fallreports%3Fco%3DC028102%26page%3D7#
here some Connections
http://deadlinelive.info/2010/07/26/wikileaks-911-and-george-soros/
he has to be working for them
This website has been around for a while exposing confidential information for quiet some time and all of sudden, its getting all these press…connecting Pakistan directly to Al-Qaeda.. the timing couldn’t be any better …
totaly agree rangzengrl..they have played us
Thanks for your thoughts on this 401. I hadn’t considered what you suggest. It really is hard to know who or what information to trust anymore.
take a 180 degree look at anything you get thrown from the msm and look who wins out of the original announcement..it leads to the truth more times than not
I have been doing research on GLP lately. many say its a front. Been putting together some info on another individual who is “out front” covering the gulf spill. he went from selling cars and writing ezine articles on everything from cars to toaster ovens, to a salt of the earth GOM journalist? Grew up on Eglin AFB.
I think the earlier work published here on Hollywoods connection to the military should be kept in mind. Are all of these people just army brats?
lot of brats then..interested in your research squid..i have my suspicions..the connections to army just keep showing up in peoples history
he has an insurance on the site
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/wikileaks-insurance-file/
probably against his life
I wonder if he is being fitted for the offence mentioned?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/wikileaks-head-julian-assange-wanted-in-sweden-for-rape/story-e6freuyi-1225908240317
mock outrage and indignation..he works for them..maybe hes not needed now..