Is a “dot.com” bubble looming in China?
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101220-710381.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines
The perceived Internet bubble in Silicon Valley seems to be a phenomenon in China, too.
Just like their counterparts in the U.S., venture capitalists in China are paying hefty sums for young Internet start-ups, lured by an increasingly Web-savvy population with rising incomes at their disposal. They’re also encouraged by a booming local stock market and surging demand in the U.S. for Chinese initial public offerings.
But some investors worry the market may become overheated as funding deals and valuations soar for young start-ups.
At the Zero2IPO China Venture Capital & Private Equity Annual Forum held this month in Shanghai, Feng Tao, president of growth capital firm New Margin Ventures, said that rising valuations “are like a tumor on the industry.”
“These high valuations are not sustainable,” Feng said.
Pricey deals have been the order of the day throughout much of the year in China, especially for fast-growing online retail companies. For instance, Beijing-based group-buying website Lashou Inc., whose business is similar to Groupon Inc.’s in the U.S., recently raised $50 million at a $500 million valuation, after getting only $10 million months before in its first round of funding. According to its founder, Lashou has reached an annual revenue run rate of $100 million, but some investors who looked at the deal said they backed off because it’s just too soon to tell if it can succeed in a crowded market. The company started up only last year.
Earlier in the year, Beijing-based clothing online retailer Vancl Technology Co. raised $100 million at a valuation of over $1 billion. That company told the state-run Shanghai Daily newspaper that it was on path to triple its revenue to $300 million by the end of the year, but it hasn’t discussed whether it’s profitable yet.
A number of other e-commerce companies have raised lofty funding rounds recently. In November, Light In The Box Ltd., a three-year-old seller of wholesale merchandise, raised $35 million, while two-year-old Vipshop gained $20 million in first-round funding to offer “flash sales” to its 1.5 million members. And two start-ups founded just last year, luxury products retailer Shangpin.com and group-buying company Manzou.com, each raised $10 million from U.S. investors in the past few months.
Some firms see the makings of a China investment bubble as more and more foreign investors move into the country and too many firms chase too few good deals.
“Most of the interest in private equity in China is in developed regions, in technology, alternative energy and media. Those businesses tend to be younger, with shorter track records, and it becomes very easy to overvalue them and value them too aggressively,” said Derek Sulger, an investor with the Beijing-based growth capital investment firm Lunar Capital. “While obviously there will be some winners, there will also be an awful lot of losers.”
Other investors believe the ebullience is justified, pointing to a country with the largest number of Internet users in the world and low penetration rates. Online retail sales in China are expected to more than triple by the year 2015, rocketing to $159.4 billion from $48.8 billion in 2010, according to a report by Forrester Research.
“This is a country that has a $100 billion apparel market right now, and of that 7% is being sold online versus 10% to 11% in the U.S., said Hans Tung, a partner with Qiming Venture Partners and an investor in Vancl. “In China you have even fewer selections offline so in theory the penetration rate could be even in higher in China versus the U.S.
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who knows..i really dont trust data coming out of china..i believe its open to manipulation..much like the western systems
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China is becoming a mess.
Is it planned or just part of the present global moral and economic decline?
I often think about the Opium Wars and about the oaths some of the Chinese military men will have taken in their secret societies all of those years ago…swearing to one day crush the anglos for their invasions.
If we understand that there is a spirit realm…and that it does have a dark side to it…and that people do sometimes actually commune with those dark side powers (seeking power through witchcraft)…we can see the possibilty of those earlier secret society/military men, annually, keeping alive those sworn oaths and of a long-term planning direction to the Chinese armys military strategies…i.e. to one day march across asia and on to Pall Mall.
I believe there is a foundation in place today, on the Chinese mainland, for the PLA to displace the government to get their plans fulfilled.
I think one day they will do it.
…and “we will then, likewise, visit those anglo offspring Down Under in Australia on the way through to England”.
i tend to believe if there is a spirtual good side there has to be a spiritual bad side..ying and yang
We Christians know the good side because when you receive Jesus as your Saviour you receive The Holy Spirit. Suddenly He opens up Gods Word to be truth, all of the way from Adam and Eve through to Revelation.
We see The Holy Spirit in action all through Christianity.
Healings, miracles, prophecies and visions and Words of Knowledge given at the laying on of hands. Joy all over the place.
At the same time, we new Christians, become aware of the dark ones.
Some new Born Again Christian, not all of course, can have a few interesting trips in their early days in Christ with satans mob.
Evil spirits make themselves known to some Christians at odd times, especially when we are asleep.
The devil likes to stir some of us, to see if he can get us to give up on Jesus. This is where ‘the nightmare’ comes in. It has a purpose designed to frighten the victim.
When we know The Light of Christ we also become aware of what the witchcraft people get into as they seek power from satan (Christianity is about learning as ‘we go’ and Christian bookshops are full of testimonies about evil spirits and those who once belonged to the devil but gave their lives to Jesus later and wrote about their journeys).
We know that playing with enchantments and clairvoyance really open doors to drug addiction and spirit oppression.
This is why we worry about the children and Harry Potter.
Harry shows the kids how to open the doors.
We also understand oaths and their spiritual significance. The Masons make oaths all the time as they seek satan for wealth.
So too will have been the old military guys in the Chinese army, making their oaths to ancestral spirits.
The hatred in China against the English for the Opium Wars has warped many people. Not all. The younger ones tend to forgive and move on.
A future war based on what the anglos did and on the unforgiveness of the Chinese military is very predictable.
When the PLA gets into power they will totally displace the economic growth thing and follow the ‘leading demons’ they are involved with…right across asia and down into sunny Australia.
Christians in Australia have been receiving warnings from The Lord about China since the early 1970s.
Jack Burrells book WHAT WILL BECOME OF AUSTRALIA…when I first read it…I believed it immediately.
I have since found other revelations…all pointing to Chinese soldiers, Chinese paratrooperes, landings at beaches, a possible new Chinese stealth aircraft, Townsville barracks being blown up, a land battle, refugees out in action, refugees out on the roads south back into southern States trying to get away from the invader.
Im waiting now to see if any more revelations come in the years ahead.
I write on a Chinese ‘RED DAWN’ every day.
thx Gibo for YOUR info and awarness /yday i post an audio on Seek blog under U S empire collapse maybe
Thanks Isabel. I will look at it. Happy New Year:)
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thanks isabel..have a great night yourself and thanks for all your information posted on here
Thank for sharing. Keep writing..