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i had heard bits and pieces of this story but i hadnt seen the whole thing..pretty explosive stuff..obama allegedly smoking crack and getting is cock smoked..thoughts please people..is his claim of “young” being murdered credible? is the whole story credible?
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One thing that will strike anyone as odd is the absense of Team Obama’s filing for defamation of character by slander or famosus libellus while having a number of other negative dealings sent Sinclair’s way.
Keep this away from any court, it would prove to be a window into the nefarious underworld of Chicago politics for the American public, so, it’s too hot to handle…kind of like a glass tube in Barry’s hands.
Current conclusion: case needs confirmation from ChicagoPD and a limo driver to have teeth.
yes..show us the cell phone record..it is damning that this slander isnt taken to court eh?
Do you realize that at the time Larry was first publicly making his claims of homosexual sex and cocaine/crack cocaine use by the POTUS, he was fully capable of obtaining his own cell phone records? In the videos you posted, Larry clearly relates that his detailed phone records were available to him online for 45 days. He claims to have solicitied the mainstream media ( The New York Post, The New York tTmes, The Chicgao Tribune, Cnn, Fox, MSNBC, etc.) on Januray 1st 2008 (Jeff Rense interview 3/10/08), meaning he had full, unfettered acces to his detailed phone records for at the very least, late November and all of December 2007 and quite possibly at least part of October 2007. But he failed to printe these records, publish them or share them with the press so that his claims could be corroborated by Donald Young (who to the best of Larry’s knowledge was alive in January 08). Do you not find that odd? He didn’t retain any evidence of the one person whom he believed could verify any part of his story, nor did he tell reporters how to find it? Think about that. He’s desperate to get ANYONE to believe him and widely report his story, yet he fails to strongest card in his hand –another man claiming homosexual affairs and possible drug use–for 6 months?
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ruhroh: you obviously dont believe him and thats your perogative..i am on the fence as i dont trust barry one iota..as you ask for proof of CIA links i note your assertions are not backed by any links either??
Giving you the interviews in which Larry said these things (interviewer, date) is insufficient for you to verify that Larry made these claims? Really?!
I don’t believe Sinclair, no. He has never been able to provide one iota of proof to support that his version of events ever occurred. You say that you are on the fence because you don’t trust Obama–proof doesn’t enter the equation for you, apparently. Interesting way to evaluate claims you’ve got there.
i note you have provided no links again..yet you accuse us of having none..thats right..i dont trust barry..so i am on the fence..sorry i am not worshipping barry because you said so..both gop and dems are suckholes..you however are a dem and wont hear of them being wrong or corrupt when its documented all over the globe that both parties are the same!..thats why you are biased and i am not..i dislike both parties but you are pushing a party..
@seeker401: How exactly am I “pushing a party”? I point out that Larry Sinclair has never been able to substantiate any part of his story and this somehow makes me a partisan hack? Really?
I gave you the specific interviews in which Sinclair contradicts himself. Below, I have given you links (albeit from a biased blog) but you should have been able to find the interviews yourself from the documentation I gave you.
Most of Larry’s original web postings, videos and interviews have been scrubbed. Larry constantly violated the TOS of his service providers, who removed his sites. Then he scrubbed what was left in anticipation of his purported suicide attempt in 9/10. Rense scrubbed his site mainly due to the Parisi v. Sinclair suit in which he is also a defendant. Many of the web radio show archives do not go back to 2008.
So you’re left with the postings of those folks who actually chronicled what Larry was publicly saying, filming and posting. Those folks are not people who supported him, but rather folks who didn’t believe him. Good thing we non-believers did catalog his web presence, or it would be gone forever.
Donald Young, the choir member in Rev. Wright church and Barack Obama’s personal friend was indeed found shot multiple times in his home. The media here in Chicago area played it down. There were two other men of the same church also found dead around the same time, apparently killed execution style.
All three were black gay men. Donald Young’s mother started to ask questions last year as to why there were no suspects in her son’s murder.
There was something about Donald Young and Obama’s Campaign that was canceled, and I remember Young being very surprised and hurt about it, but can’t remember the details now, and of course, it’s very hard to find the original stories from mainstream media on Google. Probably all washed away by now.
Campaign for Liberty wrote about it here as well as spoke to the murder of a police official who was a key witness in the passport ordeal regarding Obama and the State Dept. officials.
“And for general reference: The security for the State Dept’s passport division was awarded by contract to General Dynamics Information Technology just before the murder of Lt. Harris. The reason this is notable is because one of the Board members is Tom Ayers, father of (Friend of Obama) Bill Ayers from the Weather Underground.”
Lt. Harris was the key witness of the investigation into the State Dept. employees who tried to access passport information on Barack Obama, and he was found shot dead in his car in front of a Washington, DC church on August 8th, 2010.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=37576
Obama actually had very close ties to Ayers father, Thomas G Ayers, one of the richest men in Chicago and former Chairman of Com-Ed, Exelon. He’s very connected…
Ayers also served on the board of directors of Sears, G.D. Searle, Chicago Pacific Corp., Zenith Corp., Northwest Industries, General Dynamics Corp. of St. Louis, First National Bank of Chicago, the Chicago Cubs, and the Tribune Co.
Ayers served as chairman of the Board of Trustees of Northwestern University, the Erikson Institute, the Bank Street College of Education in New York City, the Chicago Symphony, the Chicago Community Trust, the Chicago Urban League, the Community Renewal Society, the Chicago Association of Commerce and Industry, Chicago United, the Leadership Council for Metropolitan Open Communities, and Dearborn Park Corp., and served as vice president of the Chicago Board of Education.
Sometimes, I think they allowed the Sinclair distraction so people didn’t look too closely to the Tony Rezko – Bill Ayers Woods Foundation money laundering connection.
There’s a lot to find just within the Ayers family that the media never speaks of. I think if you follow the money, that is the real scandal, and I bet there are more than a few who know..
Obama will have a ‘dead body list’ I imagine, just like Clinton did, because his ties are just as dirty.
BTW, Bill Ayers was also a big participant in the Days of Rage in Chicago in 1969.
Another thing I just thought of, maybe that’s why Chicago’s Mayor Daley hired an Ex-FBI Agent to head up the Chicago Police Department about the same time Obama was running to be President.
The everyday police officers couldn’t stand Jody Weiss who just left his position very recently.
Sorry, this was way too long for this area of your site. Apologies Seek.
no not to long..i needed information from viable sources and you gave it..what do you think..true or false?
No, not quite. You are confusing things. Three black, gay men at least somewhat associated with TUCC did die within about 6 weeks of each other, late 2007. Young and Bland were shot to death, yes, Bland died of complications of AIDS (pneumonia, sepsis).
so what do the bloggers think of the deaths..coincidence?
i was linked to the videos by a guy who said i maybe interested..i am australian..i hadnt heard anything like this before so i was very curious..generally with these types of stories i get trolled by democrat supporters who will look to clean the dirt off of obama..so i assumed you would be the same..perhaps i did wrongly but i bet you voted for him in 2008?
ruhroh i appreciate your input and your side of the story..but as i also know..one can become so involved with only one side that they dont see anything else..i continously check myself for that..
the murders triggered my real interest..the body count that piles up just like it did when the clintons ran the show..and dubya
I think he could possibly have something in his background that absolutely made him the perfect candidate for TPTB. His rise to fame was uncanny. He was almost unknown to most in Illinois, even as Senator. Definitely not a main player in Springfield or anywhere else here, except perhaps in the underworld political circles. His arrogance is almost laughable even for a politician. This man seems to ‘believe’ he is the One the world has been waiting for. I think that in itself speaks volumes. His arrogance will be his downfall, and he will probably be taken down by the same people who put him where he is today.
His book tour after the Democratic Convention, his searching for his roots in Kenya, his sudden announcement of running for the Presidency, left Illinois without the presence of a representative for some time. Seemed to me, it was almost unheard of.
I think he was being prepped for his mission, but that is just my opinion. Considering he can’t give a speech without a teleprompter, I would imagine it was best to seal all of his past and not let him talk, lest he forgets where he was born or who he really is
maybe he became perfect when they had the sex scandal over him..
Um, this ‘thing’ is the one of the strangest in man’s time. I’ll make this short as I’m pretty healthy off of some Lophraig, right now…but the whole concept of a “manchurian candidate” is now no longer a figure of science fiction to me. Thsi is the most sordid shit I’ve iver heard or read about for any leading figure in human historu…especially with the technological capabilities we have.
I started to think; why have a system of choosing(i.e. JFK)a possible error if we can CREATE no flaw?
“Truth is stanger than fiction!”…a dictum I will never take lightky.
you have to think there is some truth to this..why would u put yourself thru this hell on a lie?
post-jfk:
johnson – expanded cia role, expanded vietnam attack
nixon – became president because of the “whole bay of pigs thing”
ford – member of the warren commission
carter – highly placed in CFR circles
reagan – shot within months of taking office by his VP’s best friend’s son, and his VP was former head of the cia
bushI – former head of the cia
clinton – drove a jfk whistleblower to the airport before their crash and death
bushII – son of former head of cia
obama – mother worked for CIA, grandmother worked for CIA
amen..
There’s no truth to any of it. You’re aware that Sinclair is a career felon, convicted several times for theft and fraud, claims to have been a major player in both drug and human smuggling, and that he is actively monitored by the Secret Service after faxing bullet-ridden pictures of the POTUS and FLOTUS to the White House, correct? He’s lives on welfare and the donations he’s been able to collect from stupid people. He has never been able to provide even a scintilla of evidence to support any of his outrageous claims. You’ll note that none of the other presidential candidates were willing to run with this story as they were not able to find any proof either, although they would have loved anything that would have damaged Obama.
Larry only manufactured the story about Donald Young after failing the infamous polygraph, as there was a rather sharp decline in interest in his tale and in donations to him at that point. He floated the idea that he may have talked to Young on his blog (which has now been scrubbed) for weeks before deciding that this story might regenerate interest in him when his followers responded positively to the idea. The story has changed and evolved over time, and he embellishes it whenever his followers lose interest in him.
The POTUS never addressed the story because there was no need. The story never hit any legitimate media, and in a game of who is more credible, Sinclair loses by a mile. If the POTUS began to speak of it publicly, then it would have been in the media because he squarely placed it there. By never responding to Sinclair, the POTUS effectively kept this fantastic tale confined to the far right wing blogs.
“in a game of who is more credible, Sinclair loses by a mile.”
obama’s first job out of college was with Business International, a CIA front. his mother and grandmother before him were also CIA scum.
therefore he has ZERO credibility.
i have no reason to believe anything larry sinclair says, however, any look at the polygraph he was given shows that it was anything but a fair test. his appearance at the washington press club was setup by a hillary operative, and his subsequent arrest was arranged by … someone who wanted to oppose a hillary operative.
Any proof of any of those claims? Especially your assertions that Obama and his mother and grandmother were CIA operatives?
Sinclair rented the room of the NPC. He did not need any help, other than begging donations, from anyone to do so, nor did he use any connections to obtain the room. He even explained to Jeff Rense that he was able to rent the NPC room completely on his own, despite believing that he needed the sponsorship of an NPC member to rent it. Rense had supplied Larry with just such a sympathetic NPC member, and when that member attempted to secure the room for Sinclair, Sinclair actually rented the room out from under that NPC member, as Larry himself relates in his 6/10/08 Jeff Rense interview at 18:39.
“Any proof of any of those claims?”
You’re kidding me, right? The world you live in and the worldview you have has so fully been molded by others that I doubt you would recognize facts.
Allow me to turn it around, in a way that is more compatible with a rational worldview:
Do you deny that Obama worked for Business International?
Do you deny that Business International was a CIA operation?
Do you deny that Obama’s mother worked for USAID?
Do you deny that USAID was one of many CIA conduits?
Do you deny that Obama;s mother worked for the Ford Foundation?
Do you deny that the Ford Foundation is a CIA conduit?
Do you deny that Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s stepfather, worked for the East-West Center?
Do you deny that the East-West center was a CIA conduit?
Do you deny that Obama’s stepfather aided Suharto in the CIA-backed coup in Indonesia as a senior officer?
Do you deny that Obama’s grandmother was Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii?
Do you deny that the Bank of Hawaii was a CIA conduit? Do you deny that the Bank of Hawaii was used to funnel money to brutal CIA-backed dictators like Marcos and Suharto?
Do you deny that George HW Bush was the head of the CIA?
Do you deny that one of George HW Bush’s best friends was John Warnock Hinkley, Sr., president of Vanderbilt Energy?
Do you deny that George HW Bush’s children and John Warnock Hinkley, Sr.’s children were friends, or at least associates?
Do you deny that John Warnock Hinkley, Sr.’s son, John Warnock Hinkley, Jr., attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan?
My point in asking the last few questions is to (hopefully) demonstrate that what exists in the popular, deluded mind – including the minds of people who think of themselves as intellectuals – sometimes suffers from big lies of omission; wherein basic, important facts are memory-holed out of existence.
And I don’t live in that manufactured fucking reality, got it?
And if you do, it’s because you choose to. You don’t even pay any attention to the fact that the rulers depend on your pliant slave mind in order to carry out the murders of millions upon millions of people…in order to use fucking radiation weapons in Japan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya (google “BABIES IN FALLUJAH” if you need a fucking source)…in order to make a world where literally billions live in material misery. You participate in that with your thought slavery – v-o-l-u-n-t-a-r-i-l-y.
I don’t care one bit about Larry Sinclair. And the truth is he hasn’t killed *anyone*.
You can’t say the same about the piece of shit you went into the booth and pulled the lever for.
i didnt respond because this is your specialty xxx and thanks
@xxx: So you have no proof then. You offered no proof, asked a series of unrelated questions in an attempt to make me disprove your asserion rather than proving your own, and then made ad hominem attacks.
So, you have no proof.
The proof is available for anyone who cares to look. The POINT is that you REFUSE to look for yourself – no amount of “proof” from me will do the job.
The rulers would not be able to get away with murder without your compliance. Pointing out that you willingly give it to them is hardly ad hominem; it is placing the blame for those murders squarely where it belongs – those who enable the murderers.
I ask you again, do you deny that Barack Obama worked for Business International? Do you deny that Business International is a CIA front?
It seems to me that if there is no “proof” … then it would be a quite simple matter for you to say “yes, I deny those facts.”
So, why don’t you? Too busy thirstily licking the blood off your hands? Because thirst for blood is the only reason I can see to deny the actual facts.
if you watch the video which you didnt you will see he tells us all of his “badness” at the start..he didnt hide from it..POTUS wouldnt mention this because he wants to stay the fuck out of it..its toxic duh!
I’ve seen the video many times and am aware of SInclair’s statements. Larry’s recounting of his history doesn’t somehow make him credible. Admitting to a career of theft, fraud and forgery–crimes of deception– does not enhance one’s credibility. Using your logic, you’d be comfortable leaving your minor child alone for a day with an admitted pedophile.
you asserted that “did you know hes a criminal blah blah”..that is all stated at the beggining of the video so if you watched it then that question is irrelevent eh? he admits to all of that..
@seeker401: So now you’re moving the goalposts. I see. Now the issue is not whether Sinclair’s credibility is enhanced by his admitting he has a criminal past specializing in fraud, theft and deception. Now you’re taking issue with how I began my comment, rather than adressing the fact that an admitted specialist in fraud, theft and deception remains a a specialist in fraud, theft and deception even if he admits it.
i havent moved anything..you began your comments telling us that sinclair was this and this..like it was a revelation..it wasnt..he admitted all that in the video..so you were not revealing anything new to the readers..and then you made other claims about the phone records and young..but you provided zero link or proof..the thing you accuse xxx of..hypocrite much?
it isn’t proof for liberal filth until paid lying scum like rachel maddow or john stewart say it.
Hey, has anyone heard that Barack Obama worked for Business International which is a CIA front? No? Then it must not be true!
anyone who only believes what the box tells them is going to look very foolish..
@xxx: I repeat, so you have no proof. LOL
RuhRoh, you’re a holocaust denier.
The proof you desire is a mere few keystrokes away from you – and yet you steadfastly refuse to type those keystrokes. In the process, you are in denial of known facts.
Meanwhile, the man you voted into the presidency is using uranium bombs against civilians in at least three countries. The dust left behind by these bombs will remain radioactive for billions (with a b) of years, and the health consequences are severe.
And while this holocaust goes on, you hunt the net for ways to defend your hero, Barack Obama. We know for a fact that the government and private entities pay shills like your to go out and wage war in the blogosphere. That doesn’t mean you are a paid shill, but ti does mean that you are on the same side as the paid shills.
So will you seek out truth, or just go on denying the holocaust?
@xxx: Unlike you, I do not determine that something is a ‘fact’ unless it can be irrefutably proven. You have offered no proof whatsoever of your assertions and apparently expect me to believe your assertions are ‘facts’ simply because you typed them. Then you change the subject and launch into ad hominem attacks. If you have proof of your assertions, don’t be shy. Offer it!
It’s simple. I have made statements, you have denied them. One of us is right, and one is wrong. The reason you don’t type the keystrokes yourself is that doing so would demonstrate that it is you that is wrong. I doubt that you would be big enough to admit this, assuming you are a person and not a paid shill that is.
You’ve denied the statements I have made. And yet they are indeed facts. No amount of burden placed on me will change this, so it is left to you to discover the truth. You won’t do it though – it’s the process that Orwell described as “crimestop” in 1984. I would tell you to look it up, but we both know you won’t do that either.
@seeker401: No, he didn’t admit to all of that in the video. And by the way, you only have a third of that press conference posted. There are 6 parts to it, yet you’ve only decided to post 2 parts. Larry couldn’t admit to having faxed bullet-ridden photographs of the POTUS and FLOTUS to the White House in that video because he hadn’t sent them yet. Nor did he know at the press conference that he was being monitored by the USSS. They first visited him on January 27th, 2010 and were camped outside of his trailer for most of the following day.
As Larry deleted all of his previous blogs when he purportedly attempted suicide in September of 2010, I can only point you to transcripts and re-posts of Larry’s posts. His bullet-ridden fax to the White House is re-posted here: http://theregulator.net/?p=6883#comment-55573 His internet service provider removed the images within hours, but not before they were reposted.
Most of his initial run-in with the USSS is reposted here: http://theregulator.net/?p=7008
Jeff Rense, whose interviews with Larry I’ve cited above, pulled all of the Sinclair interviews off his site when he was finally served in the Parisi v. Sinclair lawsuit. Transcripts are available here, as are transcripts of the COMPLETE press conference and his interviews with Cao: http://jayautwitch.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/larry-sinclair-dossier2.pdf Larry claims to have sent CDs of all his Jeff Rense interviewers to buyers of the first run of his book, so perhaps Mr. Sinclair would send you one if you wish to verify that the transcripts are accurate.
Here’s the relevant quote from the press conference, in Part 4: SINCLAIR: “Actually, the cell phone records? You need to understand something. My cell
phone numbers at that time and, in fact, my cell phone currently is through a division of
Sprint/Nextel called Boost. Those records are available to me online for a 45-day period. “
if someone wants to see the other parts they can click a link on the first 2 vids..no conspiracy there ruhroh
wow at blog links as your proof..that whole site is obssessed with the man LOL..including you!
There’s a dedicated group of people who’ve followed the Sinclair story closely. None of what he’s said over the last 3+ years is new to us. You can call it “obsessed” if you like, but it’s fair to say that I’m fairly knowledgeable about Sinclair’s tale, how it’s evolved, and that he’s never provided any proof to support a single word of it.
yes i can see that but i am curious as to why you are so interested in this particular story when, as you stated, it never made any headlines or got any traction anyway? what is the fascination with a guy you openly call a crook and a liar..if he is all of that isnt it case closed and move along? in essence you are only fueling more interest in it..
The interest began because Larry sued bloggers who questioned his story. So the interest was not really in Larry so much as it was the legal case. (Larry lost the case, if anyone was wondering.) He then went on to viciously attack and defame people who questioned his story. The interest was never really in Larry as his story has never been substantiated–it’s more in the abuses he has leveled against anyone who questions him and the legal ramifications of those abuses. For a long time, many of us were also gravely concerned about the large number of seniors on fixed incomes who gave money to Larry at detrimental expense to their own well-being. Over time, friendships developed amongst the people looking for proof of anything Larry said and in documenting his rather obvious con game, much as I suspect this blog has a community of followers who enjoy chatting with each other. Larry still hasn’t stopped lying and conning, so we all still have ample opportunity to chat about his foibes on our blogs.
@seeker401: And yes, the debate of whether we are still fueling the Larry story has come up many, many times on our various blogs. The consensus has been that we aren’t, as no one seems to find the blogs by chance. We don’t tag the posts in ways that make them easy to find, we don’t use his full name much, etc. Apparently these blogs questioning, mocking and dissecting Larry’s claims were not known to you before I posted here even though you have some interest in the story, right?
But as we are in yet another election cycle and the Larry story will be raised again, I doubt we’ll stop following Larry and his massive con game.
And thank you for asking a genuine, reasonable and insightful question, rather than attacking me.
Concern for the elderly? That’s totally laughable.
Where is your concern for the elderly of Iraq?
Where is your concern for the elderly of Afghanistan?
Where is your concern for the elderly of Palestine?
Where is your concern for the elderly of Libya?
Where is your concern for the elderly of Pakistan?
You buddy Barack, just like every piece of shit president before him, is nothing but a lowlife thug murderer, and it is people like you that put him in power. Total hypocrites who run around saying they care about people while they drop fucking bombs on them!
love your passion xxx..fallujah babies..just look at it people..this is what the west does..this is what obama is doing..like his predecessors from both sides
Correction to my last post: Rense pulled his Sinclair interviews from his site after Larry purportedly attempted suicide, which was actually shortly AFTER Rense was served in the Parisi v. Sinclair suit. My apologies.