New Study Sheds Light On the Origin of the European Jewish Population

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130116195333.htm

Despite being one of the most genetically analysed groups, the origin of European Jews has remained obscure. However, a new study published online January 17 in the journal Genome Biology and Evolution by Dr Eran Elhaik, a geneticist at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, argues that the European Jewish genome is a mosaic of Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, setting to rest previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. Elhaik’s findings strongly support the Khazarian Hypothesis, as opposed to the Rhineland Hypothesis, of European Jewish origins. This could have a major impact on the ways in which scientists study genetic disorders within the population.

The Rhineland Hypothesis has been the favoured explanation for the origins of present-day European Jews, until now. In this scenario Jews descended from Israelite-Canaanite tribes left the Holy Land for Europe in the 7th century, following the Muslim conquest of Palestine. Then, in the beginning of the 15th century, a group of approximately 50,000 left Germany, the Rhineland, for the east. There they maintained high endogamy, and despite wars, persecution, disease, plagues, and economic hardships, their population expanded rapidly to around 8 million in the 20th century. Due to the implausibility of such an event, this rapid expansion was explained by Prof Harry Ostrer, Dr Gil Atzmon, and colleagues as a miracle. Under the Rhineland Hypothesis, European Jews would be very similar to each other and would have a predominant Middle Eastern ancestry.

The rival explanation, the Khazarian Hypothesis, states that the Jewish-convert Khazars — a confederation of Turkic, Iranian, and Mongol tribes who lived in what is now Southern Russia, north of Georgia and east of Ukraine, and who converted to Judaism between the 7th and 9th centuries — along with groups of Mesopotamian and Greco-Roman Jews, formed the basis of eastern Europe’s Jewish population when they fled eastward, following the collapse of their empire in the 13th century. European Jews are thus expected to exhibit heterogeneity between different communities. While there is no doubt that the Judeo-Khazars fled into Eastern Europe and contributed to the establishment of Eastern European Jewry, argument has revolved around the magnitude of that contribution.

Dr Elhaik’s paper, ‘The missing link of Jewish European ancestry: contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses’, examined a comprehensive dataset of 1,287 unrelated individuals of 8 Jewish and 74 non-Jewish populations genotyped over 531,315 autosomal single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs). This was data published by Doron Behar and colleagues in 2010, which Elhaik used to calculate seven measures of ancestry, relatedness, admixture, allele sharing distances, geographical origins, and migration patterns. These identified the Caucasus-Near Eastern and European ancestral signatures in the European Jews’ genome along with a smaller, but substantial Middle Eastern genome.

The results were consistent in depicting a Caucasus ancestry for all European Jews. The analysis showed a tight genetic relationship between European Jews and Caucasus populations and pinpointed the biogeographic origin of the European Jews to the south of Khazaria, 560 kilometers from Samandar -Khazaria’s capital city. Further analyses yielded a complex multi-ethnical ancestry with a slightly dominant Caucasus -Near Eastern, large South European and Middle Eastern ancestries, and a minor Eastern European contribution.

Dr Elhaik writes, “The most parsimonious explanation for our findings is that Eastern European Jews are of Judeo-Khazarian ancestry forged over many centuries in the Caucasus. Jewish presence in the Caucasus and later Khazaria was recorded as early as the late centuries BCE and reinforced due to the increase in trade along the Silk Road, the decline of Judah (1st-7th centuries), and the rise of Christianity and Islam. Greco-Roman and Mesopotamian Jews gravitating toward Khazaria were also common in the early centuries and their migrations were intensified following the Khazars’ conversion to Judaism… The religious conversion of the Khazars encompassed most of the Empire’s citizens and subordinate tribes and lasted for the next 400 years until the invasion of the Mongols. At the final collapse of their empire in the 13th century, many of the Judeo-Khazars fled to Eastern Europe and later migrated to Central Europe and admixed with the neighbouring populations.”

Dr Elhaik’s findings consolidate, otherwise conflicting results describing high heterogeneity among Jewish communities and relatedness to Middle Eastern, Southern European, and Caucasus populations that are not explained under the Rhineland Hypothesis. Although Dr Elhaik’s study linked European Jews to the Khazars, there are still questions to be answered. How substantial is the Iranian ancestry in modern day Jews? Since Eastern European Jews arrived from the Caucasus, where did Central and Western European Jews come from? If there was no mass migration out of Palestine at the 7th century, what happened to the ancient Judeans?

And crucially for Dr Elhaik, how would these new findings affect disease studies on Jews and Eurasian populations?
“Epidemiologists studying genetic disorders are constantly struggling with questions regarding ancestry, heterogeneity, and how to account for them,” he says. “I hope this work will open up a new era in genetic studies where population stratification will be used more correctly.”

Peer review production: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/5/1/61

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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/texemarrskhazarianjews08mar13.shtml

The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans whoconverted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.

Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

“There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

Science proves those who call themselves “Jews” are not Jews! DNA Science has confounded the Christian evangelicals by proving conclusively that most of the people in the nation of Israel and in World Jewry are not the descendants of Abraham.

Those living today who profess to be “Jews” are not of the ancient Israelites, and they are not the seed of Abraham. In fact, the new DNA research shows that the Palestinians actually have more Israelite blood than do the “Jews!”

The nation of Israel today is populated with seven and half million imposters.

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well..its peer reviewed..its not anti-semitic..its “science”..you either have the genes or you dont..you cant just become a racial group that you want to be..they dont have a historical link to this land..if they dont have the genes..im sorry but its that simple really..debunk away oh myth busters..lets hear the other side of the argument..

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~ by seeker401 on March 25, 2013.

51 Responses to “New Study Sheds Light On the Origin of the European Jewish Population”

  1. im gunna get tested. i love $$ too…

  2. try milliband here….http://surnames.meaning-of-names.com/notfound.asp

    nothing…..

  3. nothing…

    http://www.ancestry.com.au/name-origin?surname=miliband

  4. http://www.behindthename.com/names/search.php?nmd=mdu&terms=miliband

    no matches…

    tells us nothing…

    http://www.ancientfaces.com/surname/miliband-family-history/416870

  5. great name for an ancient wizard whos ancestory name cant be traced..??

  6. from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Look up milli- in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

    “Milli” redirects here; for the village in Azerbaijan, see Birinci Milli; for the Lil Wayne song, see A Milli; for similar-sounding words, see Millie.

    Milli (symbol m) is a prefix in the metric system denoting a factor of one thousandth (10−3).[1] Adopted in 1795, the prefix comes from the Latin mille, meaning one thousand (the plural is milia).

    mili…tory….

    arthur and david.

    we shall see…

  7. why have you stopped my posts? wow

    • calm down..you did about 15 posts in 10 minutes..it set off the spam filter..im getting over 100 spam comments a day atm

      • the key here is that miliband is not there by accident..hes definitely one of them..as for merllin..i dont think so..look for someone more sneaky and able to hide and deceive..

      • Are any of these spams worth to make an article about Trolls visiting your site 401?

      • It’s getting a lot worse than it was. It’s a stack of Russian ones and I guess WordPress itself is a big target. Would be close to 8-10 an hour atm.

  8. sorry mate. kickin goals as they come. up the scoreboard attendent when he cant keep up.

    cheers mate.

  9. Sloppy “Khazar” genetic research gets publicity from AFP http://elderofziyon.blogspot.ch/2013/01/sloppy-khazar-genetic-research-gets.html

    Terra Incognita: The return of the Khazar myth

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Terra-Incognita-The-return-of-the-Khazar-myth

    • from jpost:

      “So right from the beginning Elhaik has made a basic flaw in his use of sources, one that was neither caught by the editors of Genome Biology and Evolution, nor the peer reviewers of his paper.”

      but frantzman knows better? the point of peer review is that its reviewed by peers who know what they are looking at and are specialists in their field..it doesnt get published unless its passed those tests..did frantzman submit his piece for peer review?..no..its an opinion piece..even with some disputed historical errors you cant dispute all the results of the tests..

      • let us wait for critical articles, they will come. First is in Elhaik article itself as follows:

        http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/5/1/61.full

        a caution is warranted in interpreting some of our results due to small sample sizes
        and availability of surrogate populations. To test the Khazarian hypothesis, we used
        a crude model for the Khazars’ population structure

        There are no Khazars in his samples and no data for bold conclusions and article title. Here is from abstract looks better without Khazars:

        Our findings … portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries,
        thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry.

        This can be further researched.

      • you didnt quote that sentence/paragraph fully did you?

        Because our study is the first to directly contrast the Rhineland and Khazarian hypotheses, a caution is warranted in interpreting some of our results due to small sample sizes and availability of surrogate populations. To test the Khazarian hypothesis, we used a crude model for the Khazars’ population structure. Our admixture analysis suggests that certain ancestral elements in the Caucasus genetic pool may have been unique to the Khazars. Therefore, using few contemporary Caucasus populations as surrogates may capture only certain shades of the Khazarian genetic spectrum. Further studies are necessary to test the magnitude of the Judeo–Khazar demographic contribution to the presence of Jews in Europe (Polak 1951; Dinur 1961; Koestler 1976; Baron 1993; Brook 2006). These studies may yield a more complex demographic model than the one tested here and illuminate the complex population structure of Caucasus populations. Irrespective of these limitations, our results were robust across diverse types of analyses, and we hope that they will provide new perspectives for genetic, disease, medical, and anthropological studies.”

        the bolded sections are the pertinent lines left out..

        we await the peer reviewed debunking..

      • i quoted important – small sample plus assimption base. all others are ´maybe´. there is no data on Khazars in this article, only assumptions. Sample is available in supplementary data. Check sample size for Y-HG for Armenians (they are not Khazars) and most frequent haplogourps. the fact that there was a peer review makes my thinking on modern science publications is even worse.

        http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/suppl/2012/12/12/evs119.DC1/Elhaik2012_-_Table_S2_-_Y_Haplogroups.xlsx

        European Jews Total = 856
        Armenians total = 57
        Samaritans = 0
        Khazars = 0

      • Wasnt the study meant to work out if European Jews are biblical Jews? Isn’t that what we are looking at? That’s why the study is on European Jews?

      • I am not so sure about that. Its written he was exited about history of Khazars. And this is true interesting story and i hope there will be more findings also by archeologists, scripts etc.

        Elhaik cited Sand 11 times, Koestler 7 times. Neither Koestler not Sand are specialists in Jewish history, history of Khazars or ancient times. Citing not specialists is not adding any good to his article. from other citations – Brook, runner of http://www.khazaria.com/ – which is very informative site but i did not find anything about him, also Polak (16 times) where source is only in hebrew.

        the good thing about this article that it promotes discussion and studies, maybe also finding into DNA genealogy. bad thing – this is too complex and doubtful for scientific publication. I might be wrong by i consider publishing such article as mistake. let us see if/when critic follows and new research available – around timing of admixtures etc.

      • To be fair, if the results of the study were positive to your belief I don’t think you would mind them being published?

        If there are critical flaws in the study then a counter study needs to be presented.

      • about biblical Jews there were articles of Klyosov like Origin of the Jews and the Arabs: Date of their Most Recent Common Ancestor is Written in their Y-Chromosomes – However, There Were Two of Them

        http://precedings.nature.com/documents/4206/version/1/files/npre20104206-1.pdf

        also on samaritans from Wiki:
        that the principal components analysis suggested a common ancestry of Samaritan and Jewish patrilineages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans

        i did not find Samaritans in Y-sample of Elhaik file here: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/suppl/2012/12/12/evs119.DC1/Elhaik2012_-_Table_S2_-_Y_Haplogroups.xlsx

    • first of all: fuck off hasbara shill..

      now…

      the first article you cite says that “far fewer” than 90% of today’s jews are ashkenazim. i did a two minute google search to see how accurate that was. wikipedia, citing the Jerusalem [sic] Center for Public Affairs, says that in 1931 ashkenazim comprised 92% of jews worldwide, and that today the number is “approximately 80%.”

      how is that “far fewer than 90%?”

      the article you posted from the Jerusalem [sic] Post also uses this 90% number in an attempt to discredit the author. do the editors at the jpost have access to the internet? if they did they would be able to find numerus websites – many of them of israeli [sic] origin – that confirm the 80-90% number.

      “israelis” live in a world of cognitive dissonace. they go around thinking “we’re so fucking diverse!” but really they’re just a bunch of white people from europe.

    • both articles were already debunked below. the jerusalem [sic] post is not a reliable source of information, it is a zionist publication.

      the attack on this work relies on straw man arguments. ‘he said 90% when the number is closer to 80%’ …’omg! he relies on shlomo sand! everyone knows shlomo sand isn’t accurate (no example given)!’ and so on…

      based on the science, as well as facts, logic, and reason; the most likely explanation for the existence of the ashkenazim is the khazarian hypothesis. the other version of events does not answer the question: ‘what happened to the millions of khazarian jews?’ – did they just disappear?

    • both articles have already been debunked below. the jerusalem [sic] post is not a reliable source of information, it is a zionist publication.

      the attack on this work relies on straw man arguments. ‘he said 90% when the number is closer to 80%’ …’omg! he relies on shlomo sand! everyone knows shlomo sand isn’t accurate (no example given)!’ and so on…

      based on the science, as well as facts, logic, and reason; the most likely explanation for the existence of the ashkenazim is the khazarian hypothesis. the other version of events does not answer the question: ‘what happened to the millions of khazarian jews?’ – did they just disappear?

  10. Long time reader and fan. Love that you post articles that otherwise would be hard to find bc of their exclusion by MSM.
    I can’t actually refute this article but I could only cite my personal situation. I am American Ashkenazic Jew. 3/4 of my grandparents were from Hungary/Poland and came to America after surviving the war. My other grandparent’s family fled Poland to Palestine in 1935. Both my parents were born in America as were I and all my siblings.
    I had genetic testing done using 21andme because I wondered if I was “really a Jew” i certainly dont look semitic, with my pale skin and green eyes. we’ll, obviously that wouldn’t actually be conclusive, the findings were cool. Almost my entire DNA is traced back to “Judea” and after that, what is modern day Poland via, oddly enough, Egypt. It was pretty cool to see.

    • hi kevin..thanks for your post..i just like to question and look and i am a curious person by nature..you maybe one of the genuine ones? :) via egypt would be almost biblical then?

      i just have a feeling, and this study seems to confirm, that some of the jews in israel or who claim to be jews around the world are not descendant from the biblical tribe..

    • traced back to “Judea,” eh? what ethnicity were the owners of the testing service?

      the science demonstrates that the only ashkenazim with a genetic history linking them to palestine are the priestly classes – cohenim, etc. that’s why such people are under heavy restrictions by the israeli government regarding whom they are allowed to marry.

      why did you wonder if you were “really a jew?” what does it matter?

      • Hey, I missed this so I never responded to it. In not correct order:
        1-the company was founded by the wife of 1 of the google founders.
        2-I always wondered bc I don’t look the way I always imagined the biblical figures and, bc of my Jewish heritage and years of persecution, my family cannot trace its lineage too far. Most of my grandparents families were murdered in WW2 and/or too young once it started to ask their parents about a their lineage.
        3- it’s amazing how readers on this site all of a sudden trust this science bc it confirms their beliefs. Ppl here love to question climate science and creation science but, this paints Israel/Jews in a bad light so it must be fact.
        I have no problem with this posting and find it absolutely fascinating. My position is that this may be true but based on the fact that the “khazar theory” has been trumpeted in the past as an antisemetic theory I feel it is probably false until really proven true.
        How about you follow the blog’s name and look into this jew’s reason for publishing this research. You would think an evil baby killing Jew would not let this research see daylight. I think we’ll get to “follow the money” on this research soon enough.

        4- please post proof about kohanim being under strict regulation about whom they may marry. The only religious restriction kohanim face are not marrying a divorcee (unsure about a widow)

      • hi kevin..thanks for replying back..i will let xxx answer your points himself but i will also try and mediate with my own comments:

        1. it would be 23andme..now i dont want to sound like a dick but both brin and wojciki are jews so that must be kept in mind when looking at their results.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23andMe

        2. thats fair enough and no further explanation needed in my opinion..my mum was adopted and i dont know my heritage on my grandfathers side and its quite a frustration to me that i dont..we are all curious..

        3. that is also a fair comment and i must admit i felt a little bit hypocritical justifying the science behind it and the peer reviewed dogma that it must be correct if its peer reviewed.. especially in light of my derision of most climate science and the peer review process..i dont think i have delved to much into creation science however..doesnt interest me a lot..each to their own..

        i will have a look at this man Eran Elhaik and see what we can find..good point..

        4. i dont claim to know anything about that statement..

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        http://www.rockethub.com/profiles/40103-eran-elhaik

        I have been fascinated with the Khazars ever since I read the “Dictionary of the Khazars” (M.Pavić) and “The 13th Tribe” (A.Koestler). However, at that time there wasn’t much I could do because I was serving in the Israeli army, unable to travel to foreign countries.

        Trained as a population geneticist at the Johns Hopkins University, I began analyzing the data to test the Khazarian Hypothesis for the first time.

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        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johns_Hopkins_University

        wedsdsa

        Is a not-for-profit private research university based in Baltimore, Maryland, United States.

        On his death in 1873, Johns Hopkins, a Quaker entrepreneur and childless bachelor, bequeathed $7 million (between $140 million to $1.6 billion in 2011 dollars, by varying estimates) to fund a hospital and university in Baltimore, Maryland.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_School_of_Public_Health

        The first independent, degree-granting institution for research and training in public health, and the largest public health training facility in the United States.

        Originally named the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, the school was founded in 1916 by William H. Welch and John D. Rockefeller.

        The school was renamed the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health on April 20, 2001 in honor of Michael Bloomberg (founder of the eponymous media company) for his financial support and commitment to the school and Johns Hopkins University. Bloomberg has donated a total of $1.1 billion to the school over a period of several decades.

        By 1922, other schools of public health at Harvard, Columbia and Yale had all been established in accordance with the Hopkins model.

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        hes definitely an agitator of sorts but why and for what purpose? money?:

        http://eelhaik.aravindachakravartilab.org/

        12/20/12: Congratulations to Dr. Elhaik for receiving a $230,000 2-year award!

        12/18/12: New paper: published in arXiv by Elhaik et al.
        The GenoChip: A New Tool for Genetic Anthropology.

        12/14/12: New paper: published in Genome Biology and Evolution by Eran Elhaik
        The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses.

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        http://counterpsyops.com/tag/eran-elhaik/

        On Decemever 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down. But he went even further. The young Israeli-Ameican geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.
        How could those those eminent Jewish scientist before him have been so wrong? Easy says Dr. Elhaik, “First these researchers decided what conclusions they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it.” I was not bashing Jewish scientists. What Elhaik has described is a slam dunk fraud.

        But why? Why would Jews who take such pride in the academic achievement risk exposing themselves to a group deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics, but I will gladly do so.

        They perpetrated the fraud solely to support the bogus biblical claim to Palestine which was anchored in their being a separate people. This distinguished them from all others because they claimed a land title in their blood. They bet the farm on this DNA proof of purchase, a God given bar coded passport to the Palestine. Dr. Ehaik just erased the bar code. It was just stamped on anyway, because it was never in the blood.

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        some interesting material i believe..make of it what you will people!

        follow the money :)

      • That was incredibly detailed research in such a short amount of time. Bravo seeker

      • That’s my forte!

      • “1-the company was founded by the wife of 1 of the google founders.”

        when there is a conflict of interest, e.g. a zionist, who has a nationalist, racist ideology doing DNA testing, the results cannot be trusted.

        “2-I always wondered bc I don’t look the way I always imagined the biblical figures and, bc of my Jewish heritage and years of persecution, my family cannot trace its lineage too far. Most of my grandparents families were murdered in WW2 and/or too young once it started to ask their parents about a their lineage.”

        my ancestors were pushed to the brink of total destruction. they suffered much, much more than jews who were put in labor camps during WWII. it’s just that very few movies are made about the suffering of my ancestors, while many, many movies are made abut the suffering of your ancestors.

        “3- it’s amazing how readers on this site all of a sudden trust this science bc it confirms their beliefs. Ppl here love to question climate science and creation science but, this paints Israel/Jews in a bad light so it must be fact.”

        as we have discussed on this site many times, there is a big difference between capital-S Science and actual science. actual science – where the scientific method is followed, and conclusions are sought using the tools of positivism – is an amazing thing. on the other hand capital-S Science is just a policy tool.

        the second part of your statement is quite telling. you said “this paints Israel/Jews in a bad light so it must be fact [according to you].”

        how does this information portray jews in a bad light? it certainly does take away a lot of wind from the sails of zionists – adherents or a racist, nationalist ideology. are you saying all jews are zionists? saying that all jews are adherents of a single ideology is flat-out anti-jewish (or “anti-semetic” to use the non-fact based terminology).

        “My position is that this may be true but based on the fact that the “khazar theory” has been trumpeted in the past as an antisemetic theory I feel it is probably false until really proven true.”

        i see. because some hardcore ideologues called the work of three separate jewish authors/researchers “anti-semetic [sic],” you are unable to trust their work. ever notice how jews themselves are most often the victims of zionists?

        “How about you follow the blog’s name and look into this jew’s reason for publishing this research. You would think an evil baby killing Jew would not let this research see daylight. I think we’ll get to “follow the money” on this research soon enough.”

        you seem to be an adherent of the anti-semetic [sic] conspiracy that all jews are somehow in on a vast interrelated plan. i’m simple opposed to zionism, no matter if the zionist is jewish or otherwise.

        “4- please post proof about kohanim being under strict regulation about whom they may marry. The only religious restriction kohanim face are not marrying a divorcee (unsure about a widow)”

        google much?

        http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/not-jewish-enough-to-marry-a-cohen-1.150715

  11. They aren’t even real jews and they want us to constantly sympathize for them. What I hate the most is anytime you say something about it, you are called anti-Semitic. They constantly talk about how you have to bow down and worship Isreal because they are the chosen people. What happened to all men being equal? Not in the United States at least, we’d bend over and wipe their asses if they asked us to do it. that’s why we have a president that tries to make Palestine’s people feel good about him yet he sends 3 billion dollars to Israel for them to keep murdering their people. They kill innocent Palestinians everyday, and they are never called terrorists, because we’re supposed to sympathize for them and how they are “god’s chosen people”.

    • “What happened to all men being equal?”

      good point..noone should be rated above another or seen as special..we are all humans..in our different avatars..

    • No one tells anyone to bow down to Israel. America sends almost as much money to Egypt as they do to Israel. And all men being free and equal? Name the one country in the region that has equal rights for men, women, gay or straight. Free from persecution and allowed to live. There are more mosques and churches in Israel than churches and Shuls in all the Muslim Middle East countries combined. America is close with Israel bc it is the only true democracy, with liberal ideals in the entire Middle East. It is the only real friend, one that won’t betray it on religious idealogy. Now I am certainly not saying Israel is perfect but let’s put you in a tiny house surrounded by over 20 larger houses filled with people that want to destroy you on religious principles but claim its really about the “Palestinian people.” The wealthy Arab countries could have taken care of the Palestinian people very easily but it was more convenient and more politically prudent to let them get into skirmishes with the big bully Israel. Israel has some of the best hospitals in the world and they treat Palestinians but you never see that in the MSM. Like the woman who was burned after a failed suicide bombing and was treated, for free, by an Israel hospital. She fulfilled her dream of martyring herself not long after she got out of the hospital.
      It’s very easy to vilify Israel, and you have good company with the Muslims, whose very religious tenets tell them they have to murder anyone who doesn’t believe like them and the looney leftists of the world.
      Dig deeper than CNN and al-jazeera and search for the truth

      • “America sends almost as much money to Egypt as they do to Israel.”

        they send money to egypt to prevent them from attacking israel. pretty simple, pretty obvious. but to the israeli shill, somehow it seems like an “equal” thing. see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “Name the one country in the region that has equal rights for men, women, gay or straight.”

        certainly not israel, which is an apartheid state with more violations of UN accords than any other ‘nation.’ it’s also perpetrating an illegal occupation, and it is also responsible for genocide – the Nakba.

        and what about those other countries in the region? iran was a parliamentary democracy. the US destroyed it and put the shah in power. syria and iraq both came close to being parliamentary democracies, but again the US put a stop to it. in iraq they forced saddam hussein on the people. in syria they created the conditions on lebanon which led to the assad dynasty.

        each and every time a middle eastern country has wanted to approach democracy, the US, UK, and israel have put a stop to it. then they flat-out lie and say that israel is the only “democracy” in the mideast. see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “It is the only real friend”

        oh really? why have more israeli spies been arrested and deported from the US than spies from any other country? what about filth like johnathan pollard? what about the subhuman israeli scum that jumped for joy and high-fived each other while watching the twin towers fall? what about the “art student” spy ring? what about the USS Liberty? what about the way US citizens are treated in israel when they are not jewish?

        but zio-scum and obamanoids and republicans all going around calling israel a “friend.” see how zio-mind tricks work?

        ‘let’s put you in a tiny house surrounded by over 20 larger houses filled with people that want to destroy you on religious principles but claim its really about the “Palestinian people.”’

        why did you choose to live in the only country on earth where jews are killed for being jews?

        you proove your own genocidal nature. the Palestinians *are* a people. they exist. they are human beings. they lived there before you did. your people came in and displaced over 800,000 people in the nakba.

        THAT is why they are against you. but you lie and say it is about religion or values or your ancestry or the bible. see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “The wealthy Arab countries could have taken care of the Palestinian people very easily”

        why were they responsible for YOUR acts of genocide? are italians responsible for the spanish? are cambodians required to help thais? it was you and your people that exectued the Nakba, but you want others to pay for it? see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “Like the woman who was burned after a failed suicide bombing and was treated, for free, by an Israel hospital. She fulfilled her dream of martyring herself not long after she got out of the hospital”

        she’s a hero.

        look at how the zionist thinks all goyim are idiots. ‘see! we treated one of the enemy in our great hospital (that you paid for with your tax dollars, thanks stupid americans hahaha).’

        but do they tell you how they used white phosphorus bombs on children? do they tell you about how they irradiated tens of thousands of sephardic children? do they tell you about their plan to rule all the land from the nile to the euphrates? do they tell you about the hundreds of palestinian children that they jail in solitary confinement? do they tell you about shooting pregnant women and then boasting about it with t-shorts that say “one shot, two kills!” ???

        see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “religious tenets tell them they have to murder anyone who doesn’t believe like them”

        have you ever read the talmud? jewish morality [sic] consists *solely* of what one thinks is good for jews – even if that means sacrificing your children or putting them in harms way.

        israelis routinely murder those that do not believe like them, but the zio scum would have you believe it is the other way around… they they are the victims. see how zio-mind tricks work?

        “Dig deeper than CNN and al-jazeera and search for the truth”

        if you think people on this blog get their news from al-jazeera or cnn, you are 100% incorrect.

  12. all men arent born equal, unless you are related to abraham..i think semetic muslims also claim him?

  13. IDF soldier scumbag: “I don’t beleive in God or anything, I just think Israel belongs to all the Jews, including Ashkenazim like me.”

    me: “Do you know what a Khazarian is?”

    IDF soldier scumbag: “No, what is it.”

    me: “DONT look it up.”

  14. I think there’s an agenda around this DNA nonsense, but I haven’t quite figured out what, but the question has to be asked, WHY do they want our DNA under the guise of finding out where we came from? Who benefits from this? Is it to map our genomes, figure out what future diseases we could get and make us uninsurable? There has to be a privacy and monetary reason behind it all, total data mining, imo.

    Ancestry.com today is a publicly traded company and backed by the big bankers. It was started by a couple of college kids in Utah for Latter Day Saints.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com

    They are also are into DNA testing for heritage reasons. It began in 2012.

    http://ldna.ancestry.com/?cj=1&netid=cj&o_xid=0005270032&o_lid=0005270032&o_sch=Affiliate+External

    interesting website and article about bloodlines here

    http://www.bloodandfrogs.com/2012/05/linda-chavez-discovers-her-converso.html

  15. This is very interesting info.Things are not as we have been told

    children of the fallen 1 of 11

  16. silence in the face of facts…

  17. SILENCE IN THE FACE OF FACTS…

    you claimed i was lying about marriage laws in israel.

    i posted proof that i am right, and that you are wrong.

    as we can see clearly, the only force behind zionism is naked, violent aggression. facts, logic, reason, and basic human values cannot be used in defense on zionism beause they dont apply. zionism is a violently racist nationalist ideology, practiced by cowards who run and hide when confronted with the facts, only to return with white phosphorus bombs which they then use on children.

  18. Seems to me that many of the commenters here are missing two fundamental, salient points: 1) The study says Jews lived in Khazar for centuries, and at some point in time many Khazars converted to Judaism. Not that the Khazars were the original Jews. 2) No matter what conclusions you draw regarding this study, about half of the Jews living in Israel today are not Ashkenazi, but are Sephardic Jews from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Kurdistan, Iran, Iraq, India and Yemen.

    • nice try, but once again, zionism cannot be defended without extreme mendacity.

      tell me, who are the following people: david ben-gurion, moshe sharett, levi eshkol,yigol allon, golda meir, yitzhak rabin, menachem begin, yitzhak shamir, shimon perez, benjamin nethanyahu, ehud barak, ariel sharon, ehud olmert?

      they are the prime ministers of israel – all of them.

      are any of them sephardic? are any of them mizrahi?

      nope, each and every one is ashkenazic. tell me again about how israel has a majority-sepharic population and how it’s a democracy. all you are doing is lying.

      tell me, why did sepharic jews leave their arab homes and go to israel? please don’t regurgitate the nonsense about jews being ‘expelled’ from arab countries, at least not without mentioning the zionist role in those ‘expulsions.’ most of the research into this history is being done *within israel*. the same conclusion comes up again and again: jews were living peacefully in their homelands and zionists created situation after situation where this could no longer be so.

      even crazed right-wing extremists in israel had to speak out against the atrocities committed by ashkenazim against sephardim. tell me, did any arab countries expose tens of thousands of sephardic children to dangerous radiation? no, it was ashkenazim who did that to sephardic children in israel in 1951 – to over 100,000 sephardic children, with the stated goal being that “all” sephardic children were to receive the radiation blasts.

      ashkenazim do not come from palestine. they have no claim to the land, ancestral, biblical, or otherwise. the *only* thing backing up their claim to the land is naked violence.

      go ahead and believe and spread all the lies you want. it won’t work here, zionist.

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