Ron Paul says US “slipping into fascism”..slipping?..more like a full dive

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul slammed America’s system of governance at a rally in Kansas City, saying businesses and government are pushing the country into twenty-first century fascism.

But before you start picturing fair-skinned, blue-eyed CEOs and bureaucrats running amok and with their right arms held high, calm down. What the outspoken Texas Republican meant was fascist corporatism – an economic model most prominently seen in Mussolini’s Italy of the 1920s to the 1940s. Fascist economic corporatism involved government and private management of full sectors of the economy – which Paul says is par for the course in today’s America.

“We’ve slipped away from a true republic,” Paul told thousands of his supporters at the rally. “Now we’re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule, and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”

His words, which a few years ago might have been dismissed by most, rang loud and clear in Kansas. Paul’s rally coincided with long-established Missouri and Kansas GOP events – from which many attendees actually slipped away to hear Paul deliver his speech. Drawn out and bled dry by ongoing and expensive overseas military campaigns, Americans are more and more receptive to a foreign policy of peace, which is what Paul promises to deliver.

The presidential hopeful echoed words already once delivered to the American people – by their president. Dwight Eisenhower said, in his farewell address to the nation, “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”

The disastrous rise, it seems, has happened. In 2009 alone, the United States was responsible for almost half of the world’s total military spending – 46 per cent, or 712 billion US dollars. Since then, the figures have only grown, to the point that American military spending now exceeds that of China, Russia, Japan, India, and the rest of NATO combined. The US has more than 700 military bases in 130 countries around the world.

But, one might ask, can’t the American government – which oversees the world’s highest gross domestic product – afford some extra military spending?

The simple answer is: no.


fascist system where it’s a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule,”

you cant deny that..ron has hit the nail on the head here..capitalistic socialism..


~ by seeker401 on February 22, 2012.

22 Responses to “Ron Paul says US “slipping into fascism”..slipping?..more like a full dive”

  1. This from the man who wants to privatize our federally-held lands. 🙄
    “So you can imagine how wonderful it would be if land will be or should be returned to the states and then for the best parts sold off to private owners.”

    Freaking. Corporatist. Tool.

  2. y-day scenario forWW3 on tv
    i catch C astle because i’m at big fan of Farescape 🙂 so glad i catch this y-day just look the part of the plan for ww3
    Remember in 9 ellleven on theLone horseman
    the surprise was that S yria invades I s rael
    was at date too on the wall 2017 for the end
    the plot was savy involving C hina buying the d ebt or not

    in and other note watch theEnterprise (not treki this one) is old and have 9 n uclearReactors on bottom it will cost a lot to scraped so…. how handy to ‘they’ to use for start at w ar .think about it

    add this y-day from President Paul

  3. fascist system, capitalistic socialism, oligarchy…I think we live in a land of monarchies. The kingdoms are economic and financial fiefdoms lorded over by CEO’s of Fortune 500 and international companies with the Church Popes and Bishops being the political elite to keep the people ignorant and in line. The Corporate Oligarchy gets all the money from commerce and the government (the Church) gets the tax (the tithe) Ergo, the Elite have replaced the Kings and Queens, the State has replaced the Church, and for the most part…all of her subjects live and toil on rented land or sharecrop. That’s capitalistic socialism. Capitalism is simply control of all the wealth in the world. Controlled by many monarchs in many fiefdoms. We are all just serfs, toiling in their fields.

    same neocon Bruce Fein who is an advisor for Ron Paul

  5. i guess PLP that want more Z IONIST w ars don’t like Ron Paul eh?

    “Ron Paul’s Chief Attorney Bruce Fein & His Clients
    Thursday, 8. September 2011
    Conflict of Interest? Compatible Interests? You Tell Me
    Last month, on August 23, Bruce Fein became Ron Paul’s Chief Legal Advisor. In other words, Ron Paul became Bruce Fein’s Client. I have written in length about Bruce Fein as a crusty Beltway Foreign Agent and his involvement and guilt in the recent scandal involving Congresswoman Jean Schmidt. I’ve written extensively on this issue. Today I just want to list here some of Bruce Fein’s clients, and then ask you to consider and define the situation in terms of ‘interests.’ Here are a few well-known clients of Mr. Bruce Fein as exhibited by his lobbying firm:

    A Few Foreign Nation Clients
    Saudi Arabia

    A Few Clients from the Banking & Fed Megas Pool
    Bank of America
    Morgan Stanley
    Standard Charter Bank

    Oil Industry
    Exxon Mobile
    Chevron Texaco

    Military Industrial Complex
    General Electric

    International-Imperialistic- Parasitic Organizations
    World Bank
    United Nations

    You see, there exists no conflict of interest among these Fein clients. When it comes to imperialistic and exploitative operations, the target puppet nations, the greedy oil and military industrial complex players, and the corrupt-criminal mega banking industry work hand-in-hand. Are you with me so far?
    On the other hand, last time I checked Ron Paul challenged the Fed & the corrupt mega bankers. Last time I heard, Ron Paul unequivocally was voicing his disdain for US led international and imperialistic institutions such as the World Bank and IMF. Last time I looked, Ron Paul was on the ‘no-no list’ for the Military Industrial Complex lobby.
    Now Ron Paul is Bruce Fein’s client. The above predators are also Bruce Fein’s clients. So what are we talking about here?
    A Gigantic Conflict of Interest?
    Compatible Interests?
    If you think it is neither, which one of these clients’ interest comes first? Let me give it a bit of perspective with one example:

    The Turkish clients paid Bruce Fein $500,000 in less than two years for him to represent their interests. How much is the Ron Paul campaign willing to pay Bruce Fein in order to surpass Turkey’s client value to Fein? How much must the Paul campaign pay Bruce Fein for its interests to be put before those of Saudi Arabia, all those mega banks, MIC…?”….

  7. hey i know who is F ein lol nineellleven Person can’t forget who He is
    but call RP at z ionist when He want the U S A out of the evilUN
    think about it
    btw this is at good show with P eter N

  8. The thing about liars is eventually they slip up and tell the truth. When Ron Paul brags about being the only member of congress to (openly) support the bombing of Iraq’s Osirak reactor he shows his true zionist colors. You think about it. He thinks its perfectly fine, no, laudable even, for Israel with no declaration of war, no adherence to any international law to which they are signatory to preemptively bomb another nation that poses them no threat with the false claim that they felt threatened. Who the fuck does that remind you of, huh, if not Bush2 & Obama? That is Ron Paul, your hero’s world view.
    “…Newsmax: What do you say to evangelical Christians who want that aid to continue?
    Ron Paul: I say to them that our aid in the region is out of balance and it is wrong. Foreign aid does not help Israel. It is a net disadvantage. I say to them that “the borrower is servant to the lender” and America should never be the master of Israel and its fate. We should be her friend.
    In October, 1981, most of the world and most of the Congress voiced outrage over Israel’s attack on Iraq and their nuclear development. I was one of the few who defended her right to make her own decisions on foreign policy and to act in her own self-interest.

    Newsmax: What then, if anything, should we do for Israel?
    Ron Paul: We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.
    But we should stop interfering with them. We should not announce bargaining positions even before she begins her negotiations. We should not dictate what she can and cannot do. We should stop trying to buy her allegiance. And Israel should stop sacrificing their sovereignty as an independent state to us or anybody else, no matter how well-intentioned.”

    • in other words, he’s on par with orthodox leftists like self-proclaimed “supporter of israel” and former kibbutz member noam chomsky who also pushes the nonsense claim that israel is a client of the US when the facts clearly demonstrate that the relationship is the exact reverse of that.

      with 99.9% certainty, i believe one of the following people will be the next president: obama, romney, gingrich, paul. for those that continue to insist on voting in illegitimate elections, there can be only one choice.

      people like cynthia mckinney and barbara lee have associations every bit as evil and ugly as ron paul’s … starting with the US communist party and, oh yes, the US democratic party as well. that’s one of the problems with electoral politics – most of the people in involved are evil and ugly, and bedfellows can become strange…

      for example, did you know that ron paul endorsed cynthia mckinney for president in 2008 (along with three other non-mccain, non-obama candidates)?

      • lol, show where I have ever expressed support for 911 denier Noam Chomsky.. 🙂
        CPUSA endorsed Obama not McKinney (and they’ve re-endorsed him for 2012), rather the WWP endorsed McKinney: in part because of her Draft Manifesto for a Reconstruction Party which referenced the Katrina survivors’ situation. I do not support any of the fossilized communist parties, indeed I think most of them are infiltrated with nuts to keep their internal factionalism going so that they are completely ineffective. It would not surprise me to know that the feds control every freaking one of them and use their endorsements to diminish the support for left leaning candidates by attaching these nuts to them. But regardless of this, it is true: Cynthia McKinney accepted the support of numerous people and groups I consider corrupt, I thought her choice of vp candidate Clemente particularly poor, for all that she was very good at getting ballot access in all 50 states.
        Fortunately, these endorsers were not on her payroll as is Fein with Paul. Also, I did not think it likely that these people would need payoffs for their support, unlike say Thiel, else I would not have voted for her.
        I have never said I think McKinney perfect: I think she is a little too inclined to cut muslims some slack; that is of concern to me. I was very concerned over her position on the 911 donation by Alwaleed bin Talal. But when push came to shove she chose to support Sudan’s christians & animists over the muslims in their conflict, so I have some hope she would not act foolishly, were she the president. One of the things I like the best about McKinney, is that she does her research. It’s hard to truly like any pol, but McKinney & Gravel seem a far cut above average imo.
        On all the issues of most concern to me, she has a good record: environment, war, 911, civil liberties, impeachment and prosecution of those guilty of corruption. She has actively written and promoted legislation in all these arenas. Her record blows Paul’s out of the water. And unlike Paul, I have never heard her endorse a nation making preemptive strikes on other nations that pose them no threat.
        & Yes, I do remember Paul’s endorsement of Baldwin, McKinney & Nader. Perhaps you will remember my comment that I believe Paul ran as a McCain spoiler for Obama in exchange for his son being elected to the senate? That is the context in which I see Paul’s “endorsements”. I have not trusted Paul from the moment he chose to run as a republican instead of a libertarian, knowing that the result would be to ensure there was no party capable of getting matching funds. If he had run as a libertarian rather than allowing neocon infiltrator Barr to become their candidate, we’d have a functioning 3rd party not under direct control of the oligarchs. Not great maybe, but far far better than our present situation. Maybe you did not follow the libertarians last cycle, but there was so much internal division over Barr, that there was serious talk about pulling him from the ticket and running no one. Last election, there was still a chance. Now the libertarians are just another owned party. That was Paul’s doing.
        Looking at their records (voting and other statements and positions promoted) I maintain that McKinney and Gravel are basically honest (though I don’t agree with all their policies), but Paul: not in this world.

        for 2012.

        • i dont know enough about usa politics to comment except to say that mckinney to me seemed legit..but no-one is 100%..they all owe someone something for why they are where they are..sadly thats the political game..

      • for 2012 sorry, bad edit.

      • Seek, you know more about US politics than 99% of the people in this country and that is a fact. If you had a negative opinion on McKinney that would surely be of influence to me because you’d be able to show why.
        I don’t rule out that McKinney could be owned, though I don’t think so; if she were owned/ownable, one suspects she’d still be in congress? But even if she were, all that would prove is that I had done insufficient research to learn it, whereas I have already uncovered plenty of reasons to believe Paul owned completely.
        Any attempting to discredit my view on Paul by saying I have a wrong view on McKinney doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

        • Ahh I didn’t realise she wasn’t in congress now. That’s telling. There’s my lack of knowledge for starters. 🙂

          I have a strange respect for failed politicians. They obviously tried to actually do something and have some morals and that cannot be tolerated in politics. If you know what I mean? It’s a reverse way of looking at it. The good is pushed down or sideways and the bad rises.

        AIPAC ran her out of town on a rail in 2002, but she won re-election the next cycle. However, the dems stripped her of seniority so that she could not return to the previous committees on which she had sat (which is pretty well unprecedented).
        They tried to get rid of her again by drumming up charges that she had assaulted a security guard who’d asked for her id. Mysteriously although the entire area is under video surveillance there was never a video produced of the incident. She served until 2007 but ran in 2008 for the Greens instead. Her opinion on the dems & repubs:

        They motu thinks so highly of her that the FBI put up their tool Hal turner to solicit for her murder on air:

  9. “I think she is a little too inclined to cut muslims some slack; that is of concern to me. I was very concerned over her position on the 911 donation by Alwaleed bin Talal.”

    odd statement. i don’t see anywhere on earth where muslims are the problem. i also don’t think that empty bits of cloth and glue named bert and ernie are cute and funny on their own – only when some white guys sticks his hand up their asses and makes them say funny things.

    iran, lebanon, and many other majority muslim nations were quite secular and progressive in the 1970s. we all know who is responsible for their being more repressive, anti-secular regimes in power now. whenever you see muslims behaving badly you have US funding of madrassas, british intel backing, and israeli machinations. meanwhile christians and jews continue their ongoing culture war against countries like india and elsewhere.

    what was the problem with mckinney’s letter to talal? if the money was being offered to help those truly in need, guiliani shouldn’t have refused it. seems simple to me – am i missing something?

    the situation in sudan is the doing of the US and israel as well. blaming puppets instead of puppetmasters?

    btw, this isn’t about you. comparing ron paul and noam chomsky is simply a way to demonstrate the folly of the false left-right division. no one is trying to “discredit” you. i would hope the discussion is about what the best actions to take are … you back the idea of supporting imperfect candidates in (imho) completely illegitimate elections. my position is that it is wrong to support such systems with one’s participation, and that if one is absolutely compelled to still do so, they should take the action most likely to end the wars.

    clearly and obviously a vote for mckinney does not do that. that action merely supports the idea that the system is somehow legitimate – and that makes the act truly akin to murder as ‘democracy’ is a cornerstone of the US myth of moral authority (which magically transforms into bombs raining on the heads of innocent people).

    it is neither clear nor obvious that ron paul will end the wars, but compared to the other three possible winners the chance would actually exist, and therefore the choice, for those foolish enough to engage in this murderous action of “voting”, is clear.

    americans are funny (but not really cute) children. as they grow they do manage to shed many myths. they discover the santa claus isn’t real. maybe they even discover that politicians are corrupt liars,. some manage to figure out there’s no God, but it seems the hardest false belief for americans to break is the idea of the US as ‘the indispensable nation’ which somehow has legitimate institutions that are actually based on what the textbooks *say* they are based on. that is the very basis and the very source of the bombs, many of them radioactive, being dropped on the heads of brown children. if americans weren’t such sick, cruel, evil people it would actually make a hilarious sitcom.

    • The problem with her letter to Talal was that Talal was very possibly complicit in 911 himself: the Bushies and the Saudi royals have been in bed for decades. I found it concerning that she either did not know this or thought it was unimportant. I do think it an error in judgment. Still, no one is perfect.
      I am not a fan of islam even in its more secular incarnations, (nor of any other organized religion), I am certainly not a fan of the variety of islam promoted by the saudi royals (for their nation if not for themselves). In light of her tolerance of bin Talal, I found it possible that she might enter into further agreements with the saudis and I felt that would be a mistake. The saudi royals are in no way trustworthy. Still there was evidence they were funding Obama and none that they were funding her; but if I had seen evidence that they were funding her campaign, I’d have quit supporting her on the instant.

      “…my position is that it is wrong to support such systems with one’s participation, and that if one is absolutely compelled to still do so, they should take the action most likely to end the wars.”
      I agree: except where you think a vote for Paul would be the vote most likely to accomplish this. I think there is NO chance that any dem or repub candidate will end the wars and it is wrong to back any of them. If one must vote then one ought to vote 3rd party.

  10. yes XXX i know RP support Cynthia i support RP also in 08 and He RP support me and my Friends when WE use to protest get out of the evilUN
    sorry i repeat it this bfore in the blog but to me is how i meet RP years ago
    and is important when i see all this accusations not just on Seek’s blog lol i deal with that as regular basic more coming from w armongers that care much about Babies but not much about Adults dying in W AR and from PLP pro-I srael
    not from Friends from Tel Aviv or Haifa that support RP is J ewish PLP that support Him 🙂 and also J ewish g ov too
    imho President Paul is the solution for many of the problems maybe not the best imho is good
    i try to bring N adder to RP but not response yet:(
    also G ary J i got response back :)He think that He have at follow and can do something like He do as A rizona G overnor , i don’t really dislike Him or even N adder and don’t tell me all the b ull
    about Them cos all ready i know
    so still cross my fingers that N adder and
    J honson come in support of RP and YOU GUYS Here too 😛

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