CSIRO chief: “The politics of climate..it almost sounds more like religion than science to me.”

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-11/csiro-boss-larry-marshall-defends-controversial-shake-up/7157650

The CSIRO’s chief has told the ABC the backlash from his decision to restructure the organisation has made him feel like an “early climate scientist in the ’70s fighting against the oil lobby” and that there is so much emotion in the debate it almost “sounds more like religion than science”.

Dr Larry Marshall said he would not be backing down on his controversial shake-up of the organisation’s climate divisions, telling the ABC he was yet to be persuaded.

The redirection of climate science priorities at the CSIRO has drawn international condemnation, with thousands of climate scientists signing an open letter protesting against the changes.

The Oceans and Atmosphere division is expected to be one of the hardest hit, with 60 positions to go through a mix of redeployment and redundancies.

All up, 350 jobs will “change” – a plan that’s drawn the ire of an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change co-chair and even the World Meteorological Organisation which has made an unprecedented statement condemning the decision.

But Dr Marshall said he had not been persuaded to reconsider the changes.

“For that to happen, someone’s going to have to convince me that measuring and modelling is far more important than mitigation – and at this point you know, none of my leadership believe that,” he said.

Since the changes were announced last Thursday, Dr Marshall has spent much of the week trying to clarify the restructure, stressing that there will not be a net loss of jobs.

“I feel like the early climate scientists in the ’70s fighting against the oil lobby,” he said.

“I guess I had the realisation that the climate lobby is perhaps more powerful than the energy lobby was back in the ’70s – and the politics of climate I think there’s a lot of emotion in this debate.

“In fact it almost sounds more like religion than science to me.

“I’ve been told by some extreme elements that they’ve put me at the top of the climate deniers list and what perplexes me is how saying that we’re going to shift more resources to mitigation – i.e. doing something to address climate change versus just measuring and modelling it – I don’t see how that makes me a climate denier.

“It just seems to me the whole purpose of measurement and modelling the whole purpose of trying to understand climate change is then to figure out what to do about it – that’s where we’re trying to move to.”

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just saying this got the head of csiro branded a “denier”..oh the butthurt when anyone even hints at changing anything in the global warming religion..the hysterics are quite sad really..

“I’ve been told by some extreme elements that they’ve put me at the top of the climate deniers list and what perplexes me is how saying that we’re going to shift more resources to mitigation – i.e. doing something to address climate change versus just measuring and modelling it – I don’t see how that makes me a climate denier.”

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~ by seeker401 on February 15, 2016.

8 Responses to “CSIRO chief: “The politics of climate..it almost sounds more like religion than science to me.””

  1. 1 molecule in 2500 is C02 and this causes weather ???? – lol – the global warming inquisition wants to hang draw and quarter this guy for getting rid of a handful GW jobsworths – he should get the Nobel weather prize.

  2. Hello Seeker.

    Marshall really had no idea about the beast he was fooling with.

    You’ve got an (apparently sort-of-mostly) Anglo-speaking transnational tenure and funding group-hug commune — and Marshall thinks he can simply start telling the Australian part of it to do something else?

    For years and years I had access to all the scientific electronic journals that there are, due to a former university connection. This international commune of computer addicts showed up just about everywhere in the literature and has rotted what was once a promising but underdeveloped science. They have invaded the system to the point where, as was written on Judith Curry’s blog, we need to push the restart button somehow / anyhow.

    Anyhow — All the best to all.

    Andrew Farquharson.

    • thanks andrew..how quick they are to turn on their own for speaking what most of us call reasonable truth and reasonable reasoning..but no..the “outragists” throw the baby out with the bathwater..

      full adherence on all points or you are a denier..theres that saying about to know who rules you..look at who you cant question..primarily for the clan of berg i know but it works with these zealots as well..

  3. Hello Seeker.

    It’s curious how there’s really no discussion (none that seems to matter anyway) much anymore. It’s just a bunch of echo chambers.

    I’ve looked at lots of posts and their comments on what I think of as “climate realist” websites, and I’m usually left quite disappointed at the caliber of the comments, and there can be hundreds of those comments. They often come down to a bunch of friends and acquaintances agreeing with each other.

    It can come down to an annoying more-or-less-jerk like Steven Mosher actually being interesting.

    Polarization with no shades of grey or ABSOLUTELY no crossing over to the other camp allowed — that seems to be the way of the world now.

    Someone commenting recently at WUWT or Judith Curry (I think) seemed to sum up the Green / Climate alarm thing quite well — A lot of people became ideologically committed before they actually knew anything about the matter.

    Such is the state of part of our mass illusion before it implodes.

    Best wishes.

    Andrew Farquharson.

    • once they had embedded the right/left political paradigm into the “debate” the differing camps took sides and as you say..some wouldnt even know why they support or dont support it..they are basing their opinion on the supposed political ideology..so in fact they have no opinion really..they are echoing what their party says is right or wrong..

    • The GW zealots care not about GMO’s , glyphosphate , pesticides ,
      heavy metals , fukushima etc etc but CO2 hatred is fashionable which is what attracts the hollywood hucksters and rockstars to it – salving their consciences by posing with concerned expressions against a gas that they themselves produce more of than the rest of us.
      Long live CO2

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