Pope Francis: Money not Islam drives terrorism



Pope Francis says it is wrong to identify Islam with violence and that social injustice and idolatry of money are among the prime causes of terrorism.

“I think it is not right to identity Islam with violence,” the Pope told reporters aboard the plane taking him back to Rome on Sunday after a five-day trip to Poland.

“This is not right and this is not true.”

Francis was responding to a question about the killing on July 26 of an 85-year-old Roman Catholic priest by knife-wielding attackers who burst into a church service in western France, forced the priest to his knees and slit his throat. The attack was claimed by Islamic State.

“I think that in nearly all religions there is a always a small fundamentalist group,” he said, adding “We have them,” referring to Catholicism.

“I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence because every day when I look at the papers I see violence here in Italy – someone killing his girlfriend, someone killing his mother-in-law. These are baptised Catholics,” he said.

“If I speak of Islamic violence, I have to speak of Catholic violence. Not all Muslims are violent,” he said.

He said there were various causes of terrorism.

“I know it dangerous to say this but terrorism grows when there is no other option and when money is made a god and it, instead of the person, is put at the centre of the world economy,” he said.

“That is the first form of terrorism. That is a basic terrorism against all humanity. Let’s talk about that,” he said.

When he started the trip on Wednesday, Francis said the killing of the priest and a string of string of other attacks were proof the “world is at war” but that it was not caused by religion.

He told reporters on the plane that lack of economic opportunities for young people in Europe was also to blame for terrorism.

“I ask myself how many young people that we Europeans have left devoid of ideals, who do not have work. Then they turn to drugs and alcohol or enlist in ISIS,” he said, referring to the group also known as Islamic State.


“I know it dangerous to say this but terrorism grows when there is no other option and when money is made a god and it, instead of the person, is put at the centre of the world economy,”

money is the root of evil..hes right there..

“I think that in nearly all religions there is a always a small fundamentalist group,”

correct again..


~ by seeker401 on August 26, 2016.

46 Responses to “Pope Francis: Money not Islam drives terrorism”

  1. Pope Says Not Right to Identify Islam with Violence

    Pope Francis said he would not label Islam as “terrorist” because that would be unfair and not true, but in a church in Poland, he implored God to protect people from the “devastating wave” of terrorism in many parts of the world. Francis said, “We must think about what Pope Benedict said — ‘It’s the epoch of sin against God the Creator,’” declaring present conflicts and massacres add up to WWIII.

    When asked why he did not describe a priest’s murder and other attacks as Islamic terrorism, Francis replied, “It’s not right to identify Islam with violence. If I speak of Islamic violence, then I have to speak of Catholic violence.” Francis also said recently that, “Killing in God’s name is satanic,” which is what most Islamic terrorists seem to do.

    One has to read George Friedman’s ‘Europe’s Long War with Islam’ to get some perspective on whether Islam is a religion of peace or war. “Any discussion of Islamist terrorism in Europe and the refugee crisis has to be placed in a broader historical context.” It would seem that a brief review of Islamic history would show that whenever Islam is dominating there is little peace.

    “Islam is not a peaceful religion. No religion is, but Islam is especially not. It is certainly not, as some ill-informed people say, solely a religion of war. There are many peaceful verses in the Quran which — luckily for us — most Muslims live by. But it is by no means only a religion of peace… this is the verifiable truth based on the texts,” writes The Spectator.

    “Not too many people are losing their heads to fanatics screaming praises to Jesus or Moses (or Buddha and the many Hindu gods either) as they are to shouts of “Allah Akbar!” That there are so many Islamic terrorist groups composed of fundamentalists of the Muslim faith is reasonable proof that there is something different and dangerous about Islam,” writes The Religion of Peace.

    Sorry to hear that the Pope is not interested in speaking about Catholic violence, which there has been no shortage of in the Church’s 2000-year history. Today the concern is with Islamic violence after the centuries it took for the Church to turn to a less violent path. However, the Pope is right to say it inappropriate to talk about one without the other.

    Church has a Nasty History
    An event I remember from the Church’s nasty history had to do with the genocide of the Cathars. There is still violence in the Church but it has subsided considerably. However, some people feel that, “Organized religion is nothing less than organized crime – aided and abetted by the gods of the day.”

    On 21 July 1209, under the command of the papal legate, Arnaud-Amaury, the Pope’s soldiers started to besiege a city, calling on the Catholics within to come out, and demanding that the Cathars surrender. Both groups refused. The entire population was slaughtered and the city burned to the ground. Contemporary sources give estimates of the number of dead ranging between 15,000 and 20,000.

    Another Inquisition was established in 1234 to uproot the remaining Cathars. Operating in the south at Toulouse, it succeeded in crushing Catharism as a popular movement and driving its remaining adherents underground. Punishments for Cathars who refused to recant ranged from cross wearing and pilgrimage to imprisonment and burning.

    I hope this makes the Pope happy meaning that it is now fair to talk about Islam as a religion of war and conquest. However, before we do that it is a good time to talk directly about the Pope and what he is doing. This does not depend on whether you agree or disagree about Islam’s peaceful intent. In fact, I think it best to leave that discussion to another essay but have already published significantly about this.


    • it’s the deceiving tactics “they” (the so called Pope inclusive) use to talk about what happens: none of them says that what the islamic terrorism really is simply the exported saudi wahabism.
      by saying “islam = religion of peace” and la-bla, they induce the victims of terrorism to get even more angry with the enemy, wrongly identifying it as the Islam as a religion as a whole.

      Albert Pike’s ideas + Bernays tactics + a bit of Saudi money for few decades = social engineering towards the Clash of civilisations 😉

  2. Is Islam Compatible With Democracy?

    Islam is the most recent of the Abrahamic religions to emerge on the world stage. Monotheism in general, and specifically as it developed in the Dark and Middle Ages, in principle reflects extremely authoritarian regimes.
    Theologically, it posits a cosmic or heavenly hierarchy with absolute authority in God, angels in go-between positions, and a fallen humanity in need of salvation at the base of the pyramidal power structure.
    It is no surprise then that in the centuries wherein the Catholic Church was at its zenith of influence in the West, political power was held by kings, popes, emperors, and powerful nepotistic and despotic elite with huge economic chasms between the people and their rulers.
    Obviously, these structures were not compatible with democracy.

    Christianity and Judaism, being monotheistic, are no less inheritors of this stratified and centralized power paradigm, but unlike Islam these religions were effectively secularized and toned down during the century of the European Enlightenment.
    Thinkers like Descartes, Locke, Spinoza, Kant, Voltaire, Rousseau, Hume, and Hegel paved the way for Marx, Schopenhauer, Buber, and Sartre to challenge conventional approaches to religious ideologies and political formations.
    Traditional monotheism, with its highly categorized view of man and God, may not in itself be wholly compatible with democracy, but modern Western monotheism gradually molded itself to new ways of thinking during the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, and was certainly forced to do so amid rapid scientific and technological advances.
    The Islamic world enjoyed its own renaissance during the Islamic Golden Age (mid-8th to mid-13th century) with advances in the sciences, mathematics, and literature, yet the period declined and has never been restored to its former glory.
    Where are Islam’s corresponding great modern philosophers and scientists who can pave the way for a similar transformation of both radical and even secular Islam in the Arab world?

    In the Arab world today, the majority of its intellectuals are clerics, imams, and thinkers emerging from the core of Islamic values. Radical Islam simply does not routinely nurture free thinkers willing to brave the fires of what might otherwise become an Islamic Inquisition.
    Is it even possible to transition from hierarchical religious authoritarianism to a modernized and even secularized form of Islamic democracy — one that accepts the separation of church and state?
    While the possibility and harsh eventuality remains, this is a tall order since Islam, perhaps more than other monotheistic religions, invites itself into every aspect of social life. More specifically, Islam is inherently and by definition inconsistent with the separation of church and state.


    • huffington post, eh?

      I wonder when will they dedicate an article on the systematical toppling of the secular governments in the muslim states (courtesy CIA/MI6 directly or by proxy)…
      I wonder also why in the southern regions of Russia where the population is mostly muslim there is a secular government and modern way of life.
      I wonder, as well, what would the Pope until late 19c. or whoever Byzantium emperor would say about the non “inherency and by definition non inconsistency with the separation of church and state” of the Christian religion.
      I wonder also, does huffington post make any difference between wahabists and alawites?

      ..I would rather ask: is today’s form of democracy compatible with democracy?

      the same conclusion as the one above…

  3. Is This the End of Christianity
    in the Middle East?


    • they are once again omitting that before Saddam was murdered there were more than 1.500.000 christians living in Iraq. few years after “the democracy came” there were only half of them left…

      sorry, Rev…I can’t stand it: all propaganda crap, aimed at moulding our minds to embrace the “just and liberating crusade vs. the bad islam”

      it’s a worldwide orchestrated propaganda, I see the same deceptive articles in the newspapers in my country:
      “bad bad islam”, but not a sigle mention that:
      a. islamic terrorism = wahhabi petrodollar fed jihadists,
      b. all secular muslim countries destroyed on purpose by the west/arab springs during the last decade.

      …A.Pike + Bernays…

      • Genocides Against the Assyrian Nation

        From The Fall of Nineveh to the Rise of Islam

        612 B.C.
        A combined force of Medes, Scythians, and Babylonian sieged Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, and felled the city within three months. It is unknown how many Assyrians died in this final battle of the Assyrian Empire, but the losses must have been considerable.

        107 A.D.
        The Parthian king Xosroes murders the second bishop of Arbela (modern Arbil) in the buffer state of Adiabene. The state was invaded soon after by the Romans in 115 A.D. and named “Assyria”. (The chronicle of Arbela, translation by Mingana 1907)

        Good Friday, 339 A.D.
        The persecution under king Shapur lasted for forty years, and it was very severe. The following is a description of the massacres that took place on Good Friday, A.D. 339:

        “. . .The first ‘Firman’ of persecution was issued, ordering all Christians [Assyrians] to pay double taxes, expressly as a contribution to the cost of a war in which they were taking no share, the Catholicos being ordered to collect the same. The special order may have been a kind of test for Mar Shimun, but there was nothing unusual in the government thus dealing with the melet through its recognized head. In any case, Shimun refused to obey the order, on the double ground that his people were too poor, and that tax collecting was no part of a bishop’s business. On this it was easy to raise the cry, ‘he is a traitor and wishes to rebel’; and a second Firman was issued, ordering his arrest and the general destruction of all Christian churches. Shimun was arrested at Seleucia, the Court being then at Karka d’Lidan (i.e., Susa), and in the leisurely fashion characteristic of Eastern justice, was allowed to collect his flock and to take a last farewell of them, before being conducted, with several colleagues, to what all foresaw would be his death. All gathered to receive the solemn blessing which a contemporary writer has preserved for us: ‘May the Cross of our Lord be the protection of the people of Jesus; the peace of God be with the servants of God, and establish your hearts in the faith of Christ, in tribulation and in ease, in life and in death, now and forever more.” The story of his martyrdom has been told by able writers, to whom we may refer for the moving tale of Shimun’s interviews with the king; of the fall, penitence and triumph of Gushtazad the eunuch; of the offer of freedom, both for himself and for his melet, made to the Catholicos, if he would consent to adore the sun but once; and of the personal appeal of the King to him to yield, by memory of their friendship. The last scene took place outside Susa, on the morning of Good Friday, 339; when the Catholicos, five bishops, and about one hundred clergy sealed their testimony together, Shimun being last to die. To him it was given to die for both of the two noblest causes for which a man may lay down his life — for his faith in God, and for his duty to his people.” (An Introduction to the History of the Assyrian Church, P. 64)
        The Greek historian Sozomen says of the above incident:

        “When, in course of time, the Christians increased in number, assembled as churches, and appointed priests and deacons, the Magi became deeply incensed against them. The Jews were likewise offended. They therefore brought accusations before Shapur, the reigning King, against Shimun, who was then metropolitan of Seleusa and Ctesiphon, the royal cities of Persia, and charged him with being friends of the Caesar of the Romans, and with communicating the affairs of the Persians to him. Shapur believed these accusations, and at first imposed intolerably oppressive taxes upon the Christians. He appointed cruel men to exact these taxes, hoping that by being deprived of the necessities of life, and by the atrocity of the tax-gatherers, they might be compelled to abjure their religion-for this was his aim. Afterwards, however, he commanded that the priests and ministers of God should be slain with the sword. The churches were demolished, their vessels were deposited in the Treasury, and Shimun was arrested as a traitor to The Kingdom and religion of the Persians. In this way the Magi, with the cooperation of the Jews quickly destroyed the house of prayer. Shimun was arrested, bound with chains, and brought before the King. There he showed clearly the excellence and firmness of his character; for when Shapur commanded that he should be led away to the torture, he did not fear, and refused to prostrate himself. The King, greatly exasperated, asked why he did not prostrate himself, as he had done formerly. Shimun replied that he had not formerly been led away bound, in order that he might abjure the truth of God. When he had finished speaking, the King commanded him to worship the sun. He promised, as an inducement, that he would bestow gifts upon him, and raise him to honor; but on the other hand he threatened that, if he did not comply, he would destroy him and the whole body of the Christians as a punishment. When the King found that promises and menaces were alike unavailing he remanded him in prison. The following day, which happened to be the sixth day of the week, and likewise the day on which, because it came immediately before The festival of the resurrection, the annual memorial of the Passion of the savior is celebrated, The King issued orders for the decapitation of Shimun; for he had been again brought to the palace from the prison, and he had reasoned most boldly with Shapur on points of doctrine, and had expressed a determination never to worship either the King or the sun. On the same day, a hundred other prisoners were ordered to be slain. Shimun saw their execution, and last of all he was put to death. Among the victims were bishops, presbyters, and other clergy of different grades.” (Patriarch, Shah, and Caliph, pp. 25.)

        When Shapur died, in 379, the persecutions, for the most part, died with him. The forty years of terror saw 16,000 Assyrians, whose names were known and recorded, killed, and an immense number of Assyrians whose martyrdom was unrecorded.

      • From The Rise of Islam to The Massacres of Badr Khan Beg

        650 A.D.
        Many monks and ascetics were killed by the army of Sa’d along the Byzentine border, especially in the monastery called “The daughters of Five Churches” at Ra’s Ayn (in modern Syria). (Michael G. Morony, Iraq after the Moslem Conquest, 1984, P. 379, Also J.B. Chabot, CSCO, Scr. Syri 56, Louvain, 1937)

        661-680 A.D.
        During the Patriarchate of Mar Gewargis I, the Ummayad Caliph Muawiyyah demanded gold from the Patriarch. The Patriarch refused and was imprisoned. The Christians were persecuted and their churches were destroyed.

        686-701 A.D.
        During the Patriarchate of Mar Khnanishu I, the Caliph Abd al-Malik imprisons and tortures the Patriarch and places another bishop in his place. Abd al-Malik was the first to insist on the collection of the poll tax from the Christians.

        737 A.D.
        The Caliph Mahdi decrees that all churches built since the Muslim conquest be destroyed. Over 5000 Christians from Halab were forced to accept Islam or death.

        852-858 A.D.
        During the Patriarchate of Mar Theodosius, the caliph Mutawakkil persecuted the Christians. He imprisoned the Patriarch on the false suspicion of spying for the Byzantines, and he decreed that the Christians should wear special badges as a sign of degradation.

        873 A.D.
        The famous Assyrian physician and translator, Hunayn Bar Iskhaq, was executed by the order of Caliph Mutawakkil.

        884-892 A.D.
        During the Patriarchate of Mar Youhannan III a mob of Arabs attacked and plundered the monastery of Dakil Ishu.

        987-1000 A.D.
        During the Patriarchate of Mar Mari, the Arabs of Baghdad rioted against the Christians and destroyed the church of Mart Maryam and the monastery of Dakil Ishu.

        1014 A.D.
        During the reign of Caliph Qadir, the Muslims sacked the houses of the Christians in Baghdad, and destroyed and burned down many of their churches. The Caliph, at the same time, destroyed the church of the Resurrection in Jerusalem, and other churches in the same city. The Caliph ordered the town criers or heralds in each place to announce that, according to the will of the ruler, all his subjects should embrace his religion. The Christians and the Jews who did so should be rewarded; if they resisted, and did not change their religion, they should be punished. They were not allowed to have rings on their right hand, nor ride on a horse (only on donkeys). If they disregarded the order, their whole property was forfeited to the state, and they were expelled from the country. Many Christians emigrated to the Roman territory, others embraced Islam, but a great number remained and defied the ordinance. They wore crosses of gold and silver around their neck to show their religion. The Caliph ordered that every Christian who wore a cross of gold or silver should have it exchanged for a wooden one, weighing 4 pounds. If they resisted, they should be put to death.

  4. 1369-1400 A.D.: The Coming of Timurlane
    The origins of the Assyrian mountaineers in the inaccessible Hakkari region, as well as the disappearance of the Christians of Central and Northern Asia can be attributed to the coming of that scourge of humanity, Timur, known in the West as Timurlane, a corruption of “Timur

    lenk” (Timur the Lame). He “was a fanatical Muhammadan,” says John Stewart, “who was bitterly opposed to everything Christian. . .he pitilessly harassed Christians who would not renounce their faith.”

    A Turkish tribal leader who claimed decent from Genghis Khan, Timur established his power in 1369 by usurping Chagatni Khan in Samarkand. By 1380, he had directed his armies to Persia. Thirteen years later, he established his reign over Mesopotamia and Persia. After taking the city of Isfahan he ordered the construction of pyramids of over 70,000 human heads, and on the ruins of Baghdad his army built a pyramid of 90,000 heads. The Assyrian Christian city of Tikrit was besieged for weeks by an army of 72,000. As soon as it fell to Timur’s army the entire city was devastated with its inhabitants killed.

    Timur continued to march north and plundered and murdered thousands of Christians on the way. When all was done, the Assyrian Christian empire was left in ruins, with their Church of the East pushed back to Assyria and its mountains. “Christianity received no support from the feeble Il-Khans of the 14th century, and though details are wanting, it is quite certain that the Christians were cruelly persecuted; the goods of their merchants were confiscated, their churches were destroyed, and those who refused to accept Islam and could not escape were slain. . .Before the end of the 14th century Christians had practically ceased to exist in Persia, Central Asia, and China. In 1392-93, Timurlane captured Baghdad, and nameless atrocities were committed by his soldiers in the city; the Christians who managed to escape fled for their lives to the mountains of Kurdistan and the districts near Mosul.” (The Monks of Kublai Khan, pp. 91-92

  5. Maria .. Islams history speaks for itself .. No propaganda required

    From the Massacres of Badr Khan Beg to the Present Time


    • By the logic “Islams history speaks for itself .. No propaganda required” the christians are all land thieves and native-american murderers:


      to put just one example…

      Religion is easily used in the attempt to give divine legitimisations to profane political aspirations. That’s a centuries long trick.
      Now this “legitimising religion” in the West is called “the western values of democracy”.

      The sharp rise of islamic terrorism&radicalization comes directly from the last 30-40 years of petrodollar export of saudi wahabism + intentionally destroying all secular muslim regimes.

      God Bless you, Rev!

      • ‘By the logic “Islams history speaks for itself .. No propaganda required” the christians are all land thieves and native-american murderers’

        Maria, I understand your frustration .. I agree 100% regarding native american indians .. so called ‘christians’ are all land thieves and murderers ..if the jews can claim land that does not belong to them, why can’t native americans claim the land stolen from them? But we know that will never happen.

        Yet that argument does not validate Islam .. I take issue with the fact that we readily criticize the Jews and Judaism, the Pope and Roman Catholicism and so called Christianity and deservedly so .. Yet Islam seems immune from criticism .. as for me I will no longer hesitate to expose Islam for what it is ..

        Mohammad was a student of the Talmud .. Islam is nothing more than an extension of Judaism, a sect of Judaism and can justifiably be termed ‘Radical Judaism’ having in common the denial of the death and resurrection of the One who claimed to be Messiah and the persecution and genocide of those who believe in Him.

        Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. 1 John 4

        I am by no means defending so called Christianity but rather speaking in support of those who refuse to deny their faith in the face of death. Assyrian Christians are suffering extermination and those who have been faked out by the fake beheading videos commit serious injustice by promoting that propaganda. I don’t care what anyone believes but I am committed to exposing lies and deception and speaking the truth regardless of who is offended.

        • Rev, the case of the indian natives anniquillation by the whites was just a comparison…my point really is that you could not blame on 1.500 million musulmans (nowadays) the barbaric criminal acts of few tends of thousands, alleging that the barbarism is religiously fed.
          If the chop-chopers are slaughtering christians in the ME, that’s because there ARE/were christians by the time ISIS came. How it is possible, if the religion is the evil, not its interpretation for political aspirations, if the ME has been in muslim hands for the past millennium??

          check this video out, Rev:

          I break in tears everytime I see it…Both christians & muslims have the common enemy = the wahabi head choppers. By blaming the Islam as a whole we do the work of the head-choppers and contribute to Pike’s WW3.

          • http://www.shoah.org.uk/2015/10/09/jewish-origin-of-saudis-and-wahabis/

          • Maria, Maria .. we may never have a meeting of the mind but we can have a meeting of the heart .. I understand how this video touches you so deeply but if you permit me, I have a different perspective .. I see the destruction of the church as a good thing as it represents religious tradition, rituals, symbols and endless vain repetition of prayers although sincerely offered may serve only to deceive.

            The destruction of religious ideologies frees us from oppression to sincerely search our hearts for the presence of God within and worship Him in spirit and in truth.

            It is the subtle insidious oppression of all religious traditions I oppose .. this is ‘the common enemy’ ..

            Muslim Woman Gives Jesus One Week To Prove Himself Before Ending Her Life.

            • Rev, I agree that the terrestrial apparatus of the religious institutions may have become more a parasite than a guide. But a destruction is NEVER a good thing. If one should abandon “useless rituals” it should be done by his free will, not with violence (the communists were very good at stripping away religious faith…they sent millions in the Gulags in the name of their Atheistic religion).
              The head choppers are destroying churches not to relieve christians form the oppression of their religion but to violate them imposing the sectarian wahhabi God.
              And when another muslim comes to defend the christian cause it’s the proof that we are children of the same God/spiritual being/moral values.
              Do you know that for the wahabi sect everybody that doesn’t follow its rules is an apostate? that means that scia and most sunni are considered apostates since they pray to “saints” and venerate dead relatives while for the salafists exists only Allah…nice religious legitimisation to sack&kill whoever they want and doesn’t obey them…

              Thanks for the video. …I found it strange that in Iran one could see christian preachers on the Tv…:/…that doesn’t fit in the idea I had of the khomeini’s islamic regime, really…

              The violation could never be a relief. Because the spirit is always thriving for the truth what violation does is to perpetuate oppression.

              • I read about this in various sources…just one I picked by chance now:

                ““Wahhabis consider themselves ‘the chosen people’ and so anyone outside of their religion is a sinner and ought to be killed – that includes me, even though I am Muslim.”

                Because he is a Shia Muslim, Dr. Alsaedi is viewed as much a sinner as Christians and Jews. Non-Wahhabi Sunnis are also considered sinners, but they are given an opportunity to convert.

                “Wahhabis look at all religions, all people as sinners,” he said.

                The Wahhabi religious movement is a fundamentalist Islamic order that advocates a strict interpretation of the teachings in the Quran. It was founded in the 16th century in what is now Saudi Arabia as a reaction against the influences of Sufism and the Shia interpretation of Islam. The early Wahhabi leaders believed that Islam had become rife with superstition and what they believed to be deviant practices. These practices included invoking the names of prophets or saints for veneration, practicing magic and sorcery, and changing the accepted methods of worship.”


        • The 18th century founder of the Wahabi sect, Muhammed ibn Abd Al Wahhab, had his origin from the Jewish community of Turkey. His grandfather was a Turkish Jew belonging to the Doenmeh community, as the “secret Jews” of Turkey were known who collaborated with secular dictator, Mostafa Kemal Ataturk (himself a Doenmeh) to secularize Turkey. The Doenmeh Jews are a very manipulative and dangerous community. To know more about the Doenmeh, check the post revealing the hidden facts about Mostafa Kemal “Ataturk,” a Doenmeh or crypto Jew.

          A report from 2002 Intelligence reports of the Iraqi government has given much information on the Wahabis and their origin going back to the Doenmeh or crypto Jews of Turkey. Read this very informative piece on Wahabis and their Turkish Jewish origin.

          It’s officially known that present day ‘Saudi Arabia’ is the outcome of an alliance between Muhammed ibn Abd Al Wahhab and Muhammed Ibn Saud started in the 18th century.

      • The Persian conquest of Jerusalem in 614CE compared with Islamic conquest of 638CE. Its Messianic nature and the role of the Jewish Exilarch

        Signs of the Coming of the Prophet
        With the death of Nehemiah ben Hushiel, the Judaic nation tried to grapple with the meaning of these events in terms of their literary heritage. They would come to the Golden Gate to pray.146 According to Jewish tradition, the Messiah of Joseph would die.147 So Nehemiah must have been the Messiah of Joseph. This meant that the King Messiah was sure to follow. However, before the King Messiah would appear, he would be preceded by Elijah the Prophet. Their leaders said “A Prophet is about to arise; his time draws near. We shall follow him; and then we shall slay [our enemies] with [divine] slaughter…” 148 As the common people became aware of the Prophet, “they spoke one to another – surely know that is the same Prophet whom the Jews [Cohanim, Priests] are warn us about .” 149

        Daniel had prophesied that there would be seventy weeks of years until the Temple would be rebuilt. And 490 (70×7) years had passed from the destruction of Bar Kochba’s armies until this year (622 CE). Bar Kochba was a failed Messiah, now would come the true warrior Messiah. “A warrior with ‘the helmet of deliverance on His head’ and clad in armor”.150 “He will don garments of vengeance (as his) clothing and will put on a cloak of zealousness”.151 “He will fight the battle of Gog ha-Magog and against the army of Armilos (Heraclius)”.152 Although rare, even in Arabia, parents hoping that their child might be this Messiah might name him after Daniel, Ish hamudot,153 Man of Delights – Muhamud….

        ..The Prophet Muhammed was an Arab. He was of the tribe of the Quraish; and they had been resident in Arabia for over six hundred years. Their version of Sadducean Judaism was closer to the heart of the Arabian tribes than any Persian custom. The Sura Al-Baqara (the sacrificial cow) was given at this time. It is a Sura written primary to a Jewish audience, yet the laws of Salat, Prayer; Zum Fasting; Zakat, Charity; Haj, Pilgramage and Jihad, Religious War reflect an intention to back away from the Prophets original embrace of Rabbinite custom and return to Sadducean custom. For example, the laws forbidding wine, and of mourning during Ramadhan (Sefirah) to include complete fasting during the day.

        The Prophet envisioned an Umma (Judaic Nation) of the faithful that had different modes of religious worship. The non-Jews would follow the Mesanî169, the seven laws of Noah. The Jews would keep the Sabbath and Kosher laws: “The Sabbath was appointed only for those who were distinguished by it, and the Lord will judge them on the Day of Resurrection according to their distinction.”170

        pg 20 & 22

      • Slaughter of Christians in the Middle East

        • 1. the “expert” that speaks on the CNN – cough-cough on the evils of Islam, Walid Shoebat
          “Walid Shoebat is a Palestinian American, born in the West Bank to an American mother, who converted to Christianity from Islam. Shoebat has claimed that he used to be a Palestinian Liberation Organization terrorist in a CNN television interview. He is a self-proclaimed expert on the dangers of Islam and is also a strong supporter of the State of Israel. Shoebat has also claimed that he firebombed the Israeli bank Bank Leumi. after thoroughly investigating his claim, reporters and officials have found no evidence of any attack on the bank in 1979.”
          2. more about the usual CNN experts & the CIA psy-ops, a brief documented history:

          you said recently “believe no-one, think and check for yourself”

          • I know about Shoebat and that does not invalidate the beheadings

            • no, the beheadings are real, Rev. the postulate that they come from Islam as a whole and not from an extremist group (ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, wahhabism) is a fallacy.

              the meme here is to “blame the chop-chop barbarism all on the muslims as a whole so that we could go and bomb whoever we please of them indiscriminately”

              the same in europe: within the 1 million of “refugee” they (=Merkel=Soros=the BankSTERs) let in several tens of thousands jihadist soldiers whose function is to perpetrate terrorist acts & radicalise marginalised groups of muslims…and as a final effect blame it indiscriminately on each and every muslim who lives in Europe.
              this tactic is old and is called subversion / agitation.
              via the very well engineered, stage by stage, “Clash of Civilisation”.

  6. https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/319448-victims-isis-slave-markets/

  7. Rev, is this what you mean saying that the religions are a deceit?

    • Theosophical Sources of David Icke’s Reptilian Theory

      Essentially, Icke, like other conspiracy researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and Acharya S, is an ardent critic of the Illuminati, but presents the myriad speculations of Theosophy as the truth being suppressed. All his main teachings are Theosophical, and therefore identical to those of the Illuminati, which is he is purportedly denouncing.

      As revealed in another excellent documentary by Chris White, called David Icke Debunked, Icke claims to be imparted with insights from a spiritual entity named Rakorski, who he also identifies with the name St. Germain, a notorious charlatan who was a key occult figure of the late eighteenth century, and regarded as a spiritual master of Freemasonry.
      Rakorski is none other than the “Master Rakoczi” of Alice Bailey, Blavatsky’s leading representative in the twentieth century, whose channeled information not only shaped much of the New Age, but guide many of the programs of the United Nations, which is seen to be the seat of World Government awaited with the coming of the Age of Aquarius. To Baily, Rakoczi is one of the “Ascended Masters” of Theosophy, the “Lord of Civilization,” whose task is the establishment of the new civilization of the Age of Aquarius. Icke calls Rakorski the Lord of All Creation, saying that he is “directly responsible for the changes the earth will undergo.”


      • Among his numerous aliases, St. Germain had assumed the identity Rakoczi. And as Eco points out, Prince Charles of Hesse-Kassel, grandson to King George II of England and Illuminati member, at whose residence St. Germain was supposed to have died, said that St. Germain was of Transylvanian origin and his name was Rackoczi. Charles was also the Grand Master of the Asiatic Brethren, a Frankist secret society who succeeded the Illuminati. St. Germain was reputedly the son of Francis II Rakoczi, the Prince of Transylvania, who was the grandson of George II Rakoczi and Sophia Bathory, two families who, like Vlad Dracul, later known as Dracula, belonged to the Medieval Order of the Dragon.[50] And, Comenius, a prominent Rosicrucian of the Hartlib Circle who participated in the rise of Sabbatai Zevi’s mission, dedicated his Pansophiae to a landgrave named “Ragovsky.”
        Some esoteric groups regard St. Germain as having been the High priest of Atlantis 13,000 years ago; to have been the magician Merlin; a reincarnation of Christian Rosenkreutz; to have written the works of Shakespeare, or to have been Francis Bacon. Others credit him with inspiring the Founding Fathers to draft the US Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, as well as providing the design of the Great Seal of the United States.
        Both Blavatsky and her pupil Annie Besant claimed to have met the Count. In the works of their successor Alice A. Bailey, St. Germain is called Master Rakoczi or simply Master R, where his spiritual title is said to be Lord of Civilization, whose task is the establishment of the new civilization of the Age of Aquarius. Bailey stated that “sometime after AD 2025,” the Jesus, the Master Rakoczi, Kuthumi, and others in the Spiritual Hierarchy would “externalize,” by descending from the spiritual worlds, and interact in visible tangible bodies.
        Blavatsky was also closely acquainted with another Rachovsky agent, Yuliana Glinka, to whom is most often attributed the role of having procured the earliest copy of the Protocols. Glinka was the granddaughter of a colonel whose Masonic affiliations had led to his arrest for involvement in the Carbonari-inspired Decembrists’ plot of 1825 against Tsar Nicholas I.[51] Yuliana’s father, Dmitri Feodorovich Glinka became a general and entered the diplomatic service, and as a result, she spent time in Portugal and Brazil where she became acquainted with Candomblé, a Brazilian version of Caribbean Santería.


      • Thanks, Rev.
        I haven’t seen the video yet, but there are some interesting points outlined in the review..thanks

        “The destruction of religious ideologies frees us from oppression to sincerely search our hearts for the presence of God within and worship Him in spirit and in truth.”
        what paths do you follow for that sincere search of God within our hearts? is it an eclectic path you’ve found during your search or you could name some already existing doctrine? I know that the question is quite a personal one, so the reply is not obligatory 🙂
        God bless!

        • The Truth according to David Icke is a Lie based on Theosophy ..
          The Word of God has been my inspiration for 44 years .. no church required

          “Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool
          Where then is a house you could build for Me?
          And where is a place that I may rest?
          “For My hand made all these things,
          Thus all these things came into being,” declares the LORD.
          “But to this one I will look,
          To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who has reverence for My word. Isaiah 66

        • You find this of interest ..

          THE GODS OF THE NATIONS http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=gods-of-the-nations

          • thanks, Rev. I’ll take a closer look. Mostly the New Testament & the Book of Genesis, is that right?

            Theosophy is based on the esoteric knowledge, so not at all to disregard a priori.

  8. David Icke Debunked

  9. Pope Francis’ Song and Dance with Islam


    • This cruelty that asks for apostasy, let’s say the word, is satanic… Today in the church there are more Christian martyrs than in the first times. Today there are Christians who are assassinated, tortured, jailed, their throats are cut because they don’t deny Jesus Christ…. To the first Christians, apostasy was proposed – that is, say that our god is the true one, not yours. Make a sacrifice to our god, or our gods. And when they didn’t do this, when they refused apostasy, they were killed. This is repeated today. How much we would like that all of the religions would say that killing in the name of God is satanic.

  10. Muslims Claim Lion’s Share of Christian Victims


  11. Hungary Helps Persecuted Christians, Resists Muslim Immigration

    The nation of Hungary recently did something that is as unprecedented as it is commonsensical and humanitarian: it “has become the first government to open an office specifically to address the persecution of Christians in the Middle East and Europe.”


  12. Raymond Ibrahim: Why Muslim Rapists Prefer Blondes: A History



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