Musk: Attacks on Trump pointless


In a Wednesday interview, billionaire inventor and tech entrepreneur Elon Musk said that constant attacks and protests against US President Donald Trump will achieve little in tackling issues such as climate change.

Speaking to the website Gizmodo, Musk said that the president won’t yield to protesters and is more likely to be swayed by reason.

“This is something we need to strive for and the more voices of reason that the President hears, the better,” the mogul told reporters via Twitter Direct Message. “Simply attacking him will achieve nothing. Are you aware of a single case where Trump bowed to protests or media attacks? Better that there are open channels of communication,” he added.

A number of President Trump’s policy positions have stirred controversy, including his stance on climate change, which he has referred to as a “hoax” since as far back as 2012.

Shortly after Trump’s inauguration, the White House’s website page on climate change disappeared. Trump has also signaled his intention to repeal Barack Obama’s Clean Power Plan.

Musk, who is an advisor on Trump’s Strategic and Policy Forum, is known for supporting clean energy through ventures such as Tesla Motors, which builds electric cars, and SolarCity, which focuses on renewable energy.

“CO2 [carbon dioxide] isn’t exactly pollution, but it does cause warming and slight acidification of water if very large quantities are dug from deep underground and added to the surface cycle,” he explained, adding “we won’t ever go to zero CO2, but the rate over time should be dropped far below what it is today.”

Musk proposed achieving this through a “carbon tax” that would progressively tax activities producing greater carbon more heavily taxed.

“Start low and increase it until the desired outcome is achieved. This can be offset by a reduction in other taxes, like sales tax, which is quite regressive. This is analogous to taxing cigarettes and alcohol more than fruits and vegetables, which everybody agrees makes sense. We should have higher taxes on the things that science says are probably bad for us than those that are probably good for us,” he said.

In his interview with Gizmodo, Musk expanded upon his tweets describing Tillerson as a “competent” CEO who also supports the idea of a carbon tax. Other members of Trump’s cabinet team have been described as climate change skeptics, such as his pick to head the Environmental Protection Agency head, Scott Pruitt, though Pruitt did concede that human activity is affecting the climate “in some manner” during a hearing before Senator Bernie Sanders.

Tesla chief executive Elon Musk, a constant source of intrigue (to me at least), is busy positioning himself as the “voice of reason” that lies between Silicon Valley and the White House.

I’ve written at length about President Trump’s relationship with the technology heartland.

On the one side, you have the likes of Paypal founder and major investor Peter Thiel, who is now very much part of Trump’s inner circle.

On the other, you have tech bigwigs like Apple’s Tim Cook and Alphabet’s Larry Page, who were cooperative but mostly quiet when honouring the then President-Elect’s invite to meet him at Trump Tower last year.

Little has been said about that meeting since. The silence from most of Silicon Valley has been deafening – to the frustration of many here – but you get the sense that could all change if the companies are called upon to implement any policy decisions they consider unethical.

For instance, there’s a growing list of employees at tech firms who have noted they will refuse to work on a “database” of minorities, if asked. All hypothetical, of course.

Until such a thing happens it seems much of the tech elite are just keeping their heads down.


musk actually makes sense here:

“Simply attacking him will achieve nothing. Are you aware of a single case where Trump bowed to protests or media attacks? Better that there are open channels of communication,”

he then moves on to promoting a carbon tax..they never give up..


~ by seeker401 on February 1, 2017.

24 Responses to “Musk: Attacks on Trump pointless”

  1. Reblogged this on World Peace Forum.

  2. AI experts are deeply concerned about Elon Musk’s relationship with Trump

    High-profile members of the artificial intelligence (AI) community are concerned about President Donald Trump’s relationship with Tesla billionaire Elon Musk.

    In addition to serving on Trump’s economic advisory team, Musk was recently named to Trump’s “Manufacturing Jobs Initiative,” a forum of notable businesses executives that will “be called upon to meet with the president frequently to share their specific experience and knowledge.”

    Yann LeCun, Facebook’s head of AI, urged Musk to stop advising Trump on Sunday.

    “You are an advisor to Trump. Quit. If you stay, fight and know that this will hurt your legacy regardless,” said LeCun.

    LeCun’s comment on Twitter came after Musk tweeted that he would take industry concerns about immigration to Trump’s business advisory council, where he serves.

    Google DeepMind scientist and Oxford University professor Nando de Freitas praised LeCun for asking Musk to quit his role, before going on to question whether Musk is helping Trump on matters relating to AI.

    “The real danger of AI is @elonmusk helping Trump with it,” said de Freitas on Twitter. He also asked whether employees at OpenAI, Musk’s AI research firm, were comfortable with their leader working with Trump.

  3. Another nut that foolishly applied social pressure. The remark was withdrawn, but these people have no sense to just how serious and meaningful are their comments. I know this is only a comedian, and obviously, it will not happen on her authority. The point is the Left, the Right has their problems also – so no left-right paradigm here, usually likes and listens to media stars, and the silliness of making the social comment in the first place simply reflects the stupidity in the culture:

    “Comedian Sarah Silverman delved into serious territory when she appeared to call for the military overthrow of President Donald Trump in a tweet. Then early Friday she seemed to offer a conciliatory message, writing that fear can even move peace lovers to incite violence.”


  5. gold, seek!


    or why Trump was Selected as POTUS 2016:

    “Flynn said war with Iran was not possible during the Obama years. “Ideas about other ways of waging war are ignored because they do not fit the closed Second Generation paradigm. Meanwhile, Washington cannot consider alternatives to our current foreign policy or grand strategy because anyone who proposes one is immediately exiled from the establishment,” he said.

    Flynn’s attitude toward Iran is hardly a secret. In June 20015, he testified before the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services subcommittee on the Middle East and North Africa, a month before he P5+1 and Iran concluded the the Iran nuclear deal, otherwise known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. He listed five developments in the Middle East, beginning with the “negative behavior and expanding influence of the Islamic Republic of Iran.” He told the subcommittee:

    Not only do these impact our security at home, but they also impact our allies and friends in the region, most important, the State of Israel—Israel lives under the threat of total annihilation from Iran and other Islamic radical elements in the region—something the United States must never allow, nor should we deal equally with those who spew this type of hatred and bigotry (we would not stand for it here in this country and we should not stand for it elsewhere in the world where our closest friends are at risk).”


    “President Trump might have a new tenant in his Fifth Ave. home.
    The military is looking to lease space in Trump Tower, according to a report Tuesday by CNN.
    A military spokesman told the news network that space in the skyscraper will likely be needed to support the new commander-in-chief when he stays with his wife, Melania, at their penthouse home.
    “The space is necessary for the personnel and equipment who will support the POTUS at his residence in the building,” Lt. Col. J.B. Brindle told CNN.
    A floor in the 70-story high-rise typically costs $1.5 million a year.”

  8. “Mr. Tillerson had argued strongly for Mr. Abrams. So had Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and a senior adviser. Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas who is closely aligned with friends of Mr. Abrams’, and some members of the pro-Israel lobbying group Aipac, had been reaching out to Democratic senators to impress upon them the importance of Mr. Abrams receiving Senate confirmation.”


      “Elliott Abrams (born January 24, 1948) is a former American diplomat, lawyer and political scientist who served in foreign policy positions for U.S. Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.[2] Abrams was convicted of withholding information from Congress about the Iran–Contra affair while serving for Reagan, but was pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.[3]

      He is currently a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.[4] Additionally, Abrams holds positions on the Committee for Peace and Security in the Gulf (CPSG), Center for Security Policy & National Secretary Advisory Council, Committee for a Free Lebanon, and the Project for the New American Century.[5] Abrams is a current member of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council and teaches foreign policy at Georgetown University as well as maintaining a CFR blog called “Pressure Points” about the U.S. foreign policy and human rights.[3] In February 2014, Abrams, a commissioner of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, gave testimony before a House congressional committee that Christians globally are the most persecuted of the world religions.[6]

      During the Reagan administration, Abrams gained notoriety for his involvement in controversial foreign policy decisions regarding Nicaragua and El Salvador. During Bush’s first term, he served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs. At the start of Bush’s second term, Abrams was promoted to be his Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy, in charge of promoting Bush’s strategy of advancing democracy abroad. His appointment by Bush was controversial due to his conviction in 1991 on two misdemeanor counts of unlawfully withholding information from Congress during the Iran–Contra affair investigation.”
      …berg family…
      …and Donald dares to reject him!!!…

      then suddenly the MSM of the establishment & Kilary wage a war against M. Flynn:
      “According to former DIA official W. Patrick Lang: “Flynn incurred the wrath of the White House by insisting on telling the truth about Syria … they shoved him out. He wouldn’t shut up.”[34] In an interview with Al Jazeera, Flynn criticized the Obama administration for its delay in supporting the opposition in Syria, thereby allowing for the growth of Al Nusra and other extremist forces: ”

      who & son dared to question pizza-ping-pong pedo-ring:

      …a. Trump is being taught some lessons…

      & b. pizza-ping-pong OK to change Obama/kilary regime in order to make the US take harder course against Iran, but not OK to dig further & disclose criminal activity & put people in jail…

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