US military intelligence agencies have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows 7

Tom Secker and Matthew Alford report on their astonishing findings from trawling through thousands of new US military and intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

The documents reveal for the first time the vast scale of US government control in Hollywood, including the ability to manipulate scripts or even prevent films too critical of the Pentagon from being made — not to mention influencing some of the most popular film franchises in recent years.

This raises new questions not only about the way censorship works in the modern entertainment industry, but also about Hollywood’s little known role as a propaganda machine for the US national security apparatus.

When we first looked at the relationship between politics, film and television at the turn of the 21st century, we accepted the consensus opinion that a small office at the Pentagon had, on request, assisted the production of around 200 movies throughout the history of modern media, with minimal input on the scripts.

How ignorant we were.

More appropriately, how misled we had been.

We have recently acquired 4,000 new pages of documents from the Pentagon and CIA through the Freedom of Information Act. For us, these documents were the final nail in the coffin.

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read it and weep..i watched rain man again last night..want to see the perfect example of corporate ad placement then watch that movie..but i digress..this is no shock to us..hollywood is an arm of the government..concreting the narratives the west wants us to believe..

“The documents reveal for the first time the vast scale of US government control in Hollywood, including the ability to manipulate scripts or even prevent films too critical of the Pentagon from being made ”


~ by seeker401 on July 7, 2017.

19 Responses to “US military intelligence agencies have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows”

  1. This is a Bombshell…

    But should we be surprised.
    To be honest, I feel deceived… betrayed even by the extent to which the Pentagon and Washington have gone to manipulate us.

    Boycott Hollywood.

    Boycott the American Music Industry.

    Boycott Brand America.

    Whatever you do, take your money somewhere else… just to teach them a lesson.

    DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THE USA… under any circumstances.

    • many years ago I had a moment of clarity..i was curious as to why nearly every big event becomes a movie and then it dawned on me..this is how they concrete the narrative or meme that they want us to believe..sounds so logical now in hind sight but if you think about it..there is hardly any event that doesnt get made into a movie and it will always be the side of the story tptb want you to see and believe..

  2. thx-Assange for digging it up too

  3. no surprise here for those of us paying attention. this is one of the reasons i do not consume hollywood product. well, that and the fact that most of it is spectacularly bad. (just finished watching rogue one because they showed it on a plane for free… what a joke of moviemaking that was!)

    • “i do not consume hollywood product” – the exact expression! they make us pay them for indoctrinating us to be their succubus!
      the same pattern as when the IMF …”saves” …3rd world nations…or the pharmaceutical industry grows up clientes of their patients…or when the military industrial complex gets fed with taxpayers money to create bombs against engineered threats…the same scheme all the time!…a great one, no doubt!…

      • “the same scheme all the time!”

        I call “the same scheme all the time” – the fallen world. Man’s sin is that terrible. Man did not need to copulate with fallen angels, demons, or Satan in order to be that wicked. Humans are that wicked on their own without worshipping Christ.

        Genesis 15:6, “And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.”

        Galatians 3:6-8,29 “6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

        The gospel preached to Abraham is the same gospel preached in all the nations. Those that believe in a reality not programmed on TV, but a reality in Christ are heirs according to the promise. Heirs to the kingdom of God, which is not made by hands and will be complete at the Last Day for God promised and God is not a liar.

        It is easy to find what is wrong in the world, because it is Fallen. It is not so easy to understand the terribleness of sin. This, as people, is what may be hard, but there is comfort and good news. Christ died once and for all, and so those who believe are comforted by Him and know God is good and wise for He first loved us even though we do not deserve His love. Yet that is the definition of grace – undeserved favor and countenance upon a people who at first did not worship Him, but now realize their sin in rejecting God and now do worship and serve Him.

        That breaks the Matrix of the fallen world, and it is not a TV show to imagine, oh if only life would be better. It is better, and promises to be even so the more in the new heavens and earth.

        Anyways, that is my faith in Christ.

        • “It is easy to find what is wrong in the world, because it is Fallen.”

          :), adirondack, what about considering the same story told in another manner:

          …It’s easy to find what is wrong in the world, because it was created by the Demiurg (the Fallen Angel/Satanail), who is also son of the Infinite Ultimate Creator, the Almighty God. The Demiurg (Evil) created humans but it was the Almighty who put their soul by inserting in them(us)His Divine sparkle. Jesus, the God’s word (Logos) & another son, came to this world to save us from the Demiurg, destroying the agreement by which Satanail took humans enslaved. (that is the reason why he went to hell before resurrection).
          the purpose of the human life is not just to “glorify God” but to evolve – evolution of the human soul – in order to ascend closer and closer to God’s essence…

          that’s some of the teachings of the esoteric christianity/the majority of teachings declared “heresy” by the official church, both catholic & orthodox, during the centuries…such teachings based on the reincarnation of the soul, obviously. like in Buddism. Zoroastrianism. the majority of the pre-official christian chirch believes (see here

          • Thank you for sharing what your understanding.

            I am sure there are reasons you can not accept what I believe. I have read some of them before from you and I welcome reading about them. I would not use the concept of “evolve”, because I think it is a nineteenth century concept popularized by Darwin. Also, nineteenth century, Anglican Priest Newman, who became Cardinal Newman in the Roman Catholic Church, combined evolutionary theory with RCC doctrine in his “Development of Christian Doctrine”. When I read “evolve” I think of these past efforts to combine theology with secular evolutionary theory. I know Marcion was historically before these people, but Darwin’s understanding does trace back to ancient Greek philosophy, more on that below.

            Yet, there may be a point of contact for me to communicate what I understand by another concept that is on the surface similar called sanctification. As Christ applies the blessings He merited to the church, one part of the blessings is called sanctification. First, He pardons our sins, which is called justification. Then pardoned, or forgiven, due to the accomplished work of Christ, God further blesses believers by cleansing our sins and enabling our wills, mind, and heart to live a godly life. Before justification, it is taught, we were children of disobedience. After our sin and guilt is pardoned, we are adopted children of God who by a God given faith now obey for our sins are being cleansed and our lives made more holy (sanctification). The point of contact between what you said about “evolve” is similar, but not the same, but similar enough to possibly demonstrate a “growing holiness”, which I think you are communicating, maybe not wholly but in part, when you say “evolve”.

            I could not accept that the Demiurge is the Creator, because in Scripture, which I go by, the God mentioned through the written historic accounts, created the heavens and the earth and declared ‘it was good and very good’. Your story is not the same narrative that I read, but I understand you have your reasons for choosing another narrative.

            I can not accept that God put a “Divine sparkle” in man, because that is Roman Catholic theology. It was before Thomas Aquinas, but he solidified a standard on the “divine sparkle” in his writings. He got his idea, and those before him, could their idea about the divine sparkle from what is called the “analogy of being” which comes from Plato’s and Aristotle’s philosophy, maybe the former more than the latter. In the early church, those like Justin Maryter wrote apologetics against pagan philosophy creeping into the church and mixing with Scripture. Later, especially by the Aquinas writings, it became the standard way in Roman Catholic theology. It is how they understand their mass, penance, treasury of merits, and meriting their grace back to be like God. I prefer instead of the “analogy of being”, I prefer what is called archetypal/ectypal theology. The “analogy of being” states a “divine spark” is in man, but the grace has to be filled back into man in order for man to climb or “evolve” back up the chain of Being. Man’s being is an analogy of God’s Being; so, in this understanding, man is able to understand God by analogy (thought, feel, science, etc. – man’s own understanding). The Archetypal/ectypal theology, in short, makes a distinction between the Creator and creature. There is a separation between the two that only the Creator crosses, not the creature. In the analogy of being, the creature goes to God. In the A/e theology, the Creator goes to man by way of covenantal revelation, which the pinnacle is God taking on a body of man, thus, God coming to man by a revelation in which He took on a man’s body and walked amongst His creatures. In A/e theology, man can not know anything about God, unless God reveals it to man. Man can not know God by man’s own thoughts (analogy up the being chain). Man is also not God, but a creature, the “divine spark” could never be in a creature for what is Divine is infinite and man is finite, to name one example. Man was created in God’s image and likeness (Genesis 1), but what does that mean? In Colossians and Ephesians, it was revealed that our image and likeness are like God in that God gave, and now cleanses believers due to the Fall and thus sin, a renewing of their (man’s) image in true knowledge, righteousness, and holiness. We are able to love, as God loves, but God loves in a way that only the Creator loves and it is incomprensible and infinite as to how He loves. Man loves, but only as a creature may love which he is dependent upon God to love in the first place. God is independent of creation and not created. Man is dependent on God and is a creation.

            The Fall is man’s responsibility. Man is that wicked and that needy of God’s salvation.

            I think the purpose of living is to glorify God, because God is always exalted (higher) than His creatures. Glorify means to acknowledge God is higher or exalted above all. I do not see how God could not be above all and glorified. There is more to life, but even sanctification is our maturing or growing into a holy life which only exalts God because it demonstrates the authority and the highness of His work. He is able to sanctify because He is higher (glorified). His creation is always lower.

            I have to go, but thanks for sharing your understanding. I enjoy reading about it.

          • 🙂 I do not know the truth, adirondack. I am in constant search for it.
            One thing I got clear after following closely for some years now the way the world is made turning around (by the powers-that-shouldn’t-be, the social engineering processes, etc, etc) it that the official story taught to us in school/by the official institutions for massive consumption is hardly the true one.

            The same applied to the Christian church/official narrative.
            The same with the sources: I’m always suspicious and ask constantly the “cui bono” question…even for the Bible texts…sorry…

            I am from the Balkans, a region economically, politically and demographically devastated today, but with a millennial cultural history and spiritual tradition: the home of Orpheus, the mysteries of Samotraki&Dionisius/Orpheus…territories that became later a very fertile ground for the apostolic missions of not one of Jesus’ disciples: St. Paul, St. Andrew, etc. …where the charismatic church, lead by real mystics and not bureaucrats, flourished…an uninstitutionalised church/communities-of-fait which stepped down into “a dissident faith” when the christianity became the official religion of Byzantium…the uninterrupted tradition of St.Pauls teachings, then the bogomils, then the cathars, who brought the ideas of Humanism and served as the trigger of the Renascence in Western Europe is still very much alive.

            I don’t know the texts of the written bible in use by the official church, I can speak, though, of the spirit of the ancient traditions that impregnated my bringing up. And that is why my understanding of God is LOVE. I don’t invent anything myself but just repeat the millennial credo of my land: that the Almighty is not “the Lord that punishes”, but the carrying Father that helps, not “the YAHWE of “the chosen people, the jews and only the jews”, but “Abba, Jesus’s father” which is equal in his paternal love to each one of us.
            And just like each father is concerned with his children’s development, in the same way the Supreme God made us with the purpose to grow spiritually and so “evolve, by learning” . In the same way a slaveholder punishes his slaves, I understand Yahweh’s relations with his “chosen people”. So a God “that made us to glorify him”, seems too selfish and spiritually little to me, more a devil demiurg/Satanail/extraterrestrials that genetically modified us to serve them. We glorify God, of course! But not as an end in itself. Glorifying Him, like loving Him, like asking His assistance is the only path, to my understanding, human soul has to grow into the spiritual thrive towards Him. A strictly individual journey, in which the ultimate success lays in the personal quest and not in an institution with liturgy, messes and bureaucracy…a viewpoint, this last one, shared by Rev, I think..

            Always happy to talk with you, adirondack!
            God bless!

          • Thank you for a kind reply. If I thought the way you do, I would hold the same conclusions.

            One of the most questioned theological concepts throughout church history, which I would include since Adam and Eve, but even after the apostolic age, involves sin and God’s love. Even without bringing in the issue of the origin of sin, the question of man sinning and how God deals with man’s sin has been a discerning process in the church with much energy spent. I go to a church with plain white walls. Liturgy, masses, and bureaucracy is something our church historically has rejected. Yet, I think it is helpful to understand the thought and feeling, in other words, the theological reasons why some churches have liturgy, mass, and bureaucracy. Those things did not appear out of a vacuum and developed due to certain historic, political, and geographical events that are unavoidable. Real people had real issues and dealt with them in the best way they knew how for better or worse.

            Why I am afraid of the “divine spark” is because of its’ affinity to the Roman Catholic doctrine “analogy of being”. At the Fall, the RCC says man lost this “divine spark”, but it can be replenished by grace. The RCC perceives grace to be a substance, of sorts, that can be replenished through the mass and penance. This idea of grace in the RCC gained traction at the time of Aquinas, but solidified by the time of the Council of Trent. It is why the Pope is considered infallible in his official bulls, because at those moments he is speaking with a perfect divine spark which no other man is able to possess for his is the highest. This is why the RCC says it, through the Pope and the magisterium, have the final say on Scripture’s interpretation. At some point, when a person has a divine spark somebody has to have the final say because in reality people are diverse in their thinking. One person can say ‘God told them’, but when another person says ‘God told them’ (by whatever method God tells them, i.e. intuition, thought, etc.), then the different opinions can not be the same God telling them two different things. I hold the Scriptures have the final say, but the RCC says tradition formulated in the church, again by the Pope and the magisterium in its’ highest form, has the final say. Tradition is based not on Scripture, but on the infallible divine spark in the Pope. Too many people, for my liking, that think they have the direct phone line to God.

            Our church historically (for centuries) does not accept secret society members in being members of the church because of the obvious conflict of authority, and our church holds a historic protest against governments because in the various countries our denomination is in, the governments refuse to bow the knee to Christ. There were times in the past that governments acknowledged Christ is King of kings, but those moments were fleeting and not always sought Scripture as the final authority even in those instances. Yet if Romans 13 was followed, then our church would probably be seen by some as aligning with the government too much.

            I bring this up, because it is better to not just throw some churches into a bag and lump them all together based on preconceptions. Not that you do this. I have not seen you do this, just thought I would mention it. This is why I converse with you. I want to understand you, and not just assume and give false impressions of what you believe in. I desire to be accurate and truly witness of your understanding, even if I disagree with it. I have been wrong in the past, and I grow in understanding and patience by communicating and being around others. I definitely learn by reading what other people believe. It keeps me out of my little bubble of understanding and widens my knowledge of the world.

            I think the larger family of the Gnostics, as you said they are, such as Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, and I add Platonism, were the authority and sanctioned worldviews at the time of Jesus. These were the prevalent and thus the majority worldviews at the time. Christianity was the minority. The Gnostics were a new understanding because they mixed what was being taught in the churches with the government sanctioned worldviews, especially Platonism. From my side of looking at things, the liturgy, mass, and bureaucracy came about because of Gnosticism and other secular philosophies entering and then being practiced in the church. It was when man used their fallen world ideas instead of Scripture that these and other things got into the church. When man begins to think their thoughts and feelings are divine and no longer from their own human nature, then to me, that misinterprets their own human nature as being god. Instead of going to the source of vital spiritual growth, man loses their spiritual excitement and joy by not depending on the very source of life and vital spiritually who is God. They are then constantly seeking exciting spiritual insights that die out and so they seek for more. I am not saying this is you. That would be presumptuous of myself, and I do not know you that well to say anything like that of you. Though some of things you say remind of some people I know who hold to similar beliefs. But I do not want to just lump everybody together, for that would be foolish of me to not consider the diverse understandings that exist in the world.

            I do know some people, who I consider to be on friendly terms with myself and so we converse and I enjoy their company from time to time, but they are always desirous of something to make them feel good and spiritually ecstatic. They tend to only look out for their own spiritual growth and not think of others. They talk about loving others, and do demonstrate great love toward others; yet, they do it for their own good. It is more about their own works and what it does for them and not really the loving of others. It is like they are trying to do these great things for attention. To change the world so everybody will notice them. Please remember, I am not saying you are like this, in fact, I think I do know you well enough to say that you also would find those kind of people to be not helpful at all. They are not always like that, or it might be too hard to be around. Yet, at times I do think they get a little carried away. No doubt there are things about myself that may “make their blood boil”, so to speak, but nobody’s perfect and I pray I glorify God and not myself.

            So what is God to do with the obvious wicked people of the world? Does He let them do whatever they want, hurt others, and destroy their lives?
            Or will God have the final say and bring justice to the weak, poor, orphaned, and persecuted who can not bring justice to their situation and are thereby dominated by the wicked? Will God love them and bring recompense to the lives that were destroyed by evildoers? Or will evildoers get a free ride in this life and the next to come?

            I think God will be bring justice, for without justice and Somebody to step in to have compassion for the weak there is no love and goodness.

            Thank you and God bless as well!

          • thanks for your thoughts, adirondack.
            and what about the “YHW” point? how could the private god of a “chosen people” could be the God of the universal religion of christianity in which Jesus came to save the whole humanity?…??…

          • Judaism is not Christianity. The Old Testament is Christianity. The New Testament has many large themes, and one of those themes is how the first century Israeli nation had rejected the Old Testament, which is about Christ, and how the first century Israeli nation had developed their own man-made religion which no longer looked to Scripture. Nothing has changed in this regard, for modern day Israel also rejects Christ and His Word revealed to the believers in the Old Testament era.

            Another large theme, is how the Old Testament revealed a time when God would no longer be with the Israeli nation, because they would reject Him fully and follow their own adulterous (idol) ways. Believers knew this time would come and looked for it; so, when Jesus, who is YHW incarnated, then believers sought Him out. The Old Testament revealed where and when YHW would take on the body of a man and be The Christ, because man sins, then mans’ blood is the satisfaction to God’s justice and love. So, God Himself, instead of punishing man took the punishment Himself on the cross. God bled (Acts 20:28).

            Paul, charge by Christ to preach His gospel, gave a wonderful teaching at Areopagus, in Athens, on how the world had been rejecting their God (Acts 17). The universal religion since the garden of Eden was rejected by most people, and the universal religion is now rejected by most people, so nothing has changed. There are nominal Christians, just like in anything, so the question is always: Do they know and practice the gospel?

            God does not save anybody who rejects Him. Obviously if a person does not believe, then they do not believe. God gives the people what they want (Romans 1:18-32), and since most people, “exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. (Romans 1:25),” then that is how it is. Then those people have their hopes and aspirations in another way(s), and they will tell others that also.

            Jesus and His charge to the apostles was only accepted by some people when Jesus and the gospel message the apostles were charged to preach and teach was preached and taught from the Old Testament, which were the only Scriptures at the time. That was the only way people could know who Jesus was. Therefore, when Jesus started His public ministry His first preaching was on Isaiah 61, and believers then knew who He was. Some knew before that, but is because they searched the Scriptures and understood the signs of the times when He was born, etc. Yet, at the start of His public ministry, YWH planned to read Isaiah 61 in the first century, and so, had Isaiah the prophet write it down for Him hundreds of years prior to His incarnation (birth).

            The New Testament is mainly quotes from the Old Testament, because the Old Testament anticipated the coming Messiah, and the New Testament is a retrospective look at the Messiah who came. The Christian religion was already being rejected before Christ came by the proto-Judaism (leadership being: Pharisees, Sadducees, and scribes). The proto-Judaic establishment had already stopped reading only the Scriptures and understanding them alone, and they started adding and taking away from them. They replaced the Scriptural view for what they thought and felt was better.

            David is my brother, and Rahab is my sister in Christ. Abraham looked for the New Jerusalem, just as I do, which is the new heavens and earth where and when sin, sadness, and death will be no more (Hebrews 11:8-16; Revelation 21:1-5; Hebrews 9:28).

            The Old Testament era was more forgiving than now. God did not punish as severely in the Old Testament as He does now (Hebrews 10). These days Jesus is more severe in His punishment and carries out His Judgement on a much larger scale, because the complete revelation, who is Christ, came and now sits on the throne. The pre-incarnate Christ is more wrathful now, than He was in the Old Testament era. The people in the Old Testament era had no excuse when they did not worship Christ, and therefore, when they did not devote their lives to being loving and forgiving like their Creator and Redeemer they followed their own creaturely ways which are the ways of the fallen world. Yet, as God reveals, in those times of ignorance He overlooked, but now declares to all people to repent and believe (Acts 17:30).

            If I want to bake a cake, I do not turn the page in a calculus book for a recipe. If I want to put together a bike from the store, I follow the directions in the package and not turn on the TV to watch a movie about Birds in order to know how to build a bike. As you may well know, when mixing outside understandings, like Tibetan Buddhism and Celtic, there may be similar references, but they are not the same. They may overlap in areas, but one is called Celtic and the other is named something else for a reason, because there are obvious differences. Some people search out similarities in various religions, philosophies, and practices and try to make their own religion or their own idea of what they think religion is. That is what they do. The Christian faith is different, though not done perfectly because the Scriptures say, “If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us (1 John 1:10).” It is the only religion in the whole world that man has ever come to know in which God saves Him by His own accomplished redemptive work. All other ways – all – make man have to do something, in whole or in part, on his own in order to be saved. I would rather have God who knows no sin and is wholly love and holiness be the One who redeems me because I do not know what complete knowledge, love, and holiness is – I do not know everything, I hurt others and am not pure love, and I, just to put it simply, am not pure holiness.

            In Christianity, it always does have to do with Christ and His accomplished redemptive work and His application of the blessings He merit to His church – who are believers who assemble to worship Him as He directed us to do by His written Word. Some people like to mix their own ideas with Scripture. That is what they do. Then there are other people who do not mix their own ideas with Scripture. In my experience, I find it to be the case that when people mix their own ideas with Scripture, usually such people tend to not first read the Scriptures to know and understand what the Scripture says before making an assessment. They have a caricature or misinterpret the Bible, and then tend to only understand it in that particular way. They tend to add or take away what they desire before knowing what it is they added or took away in order to fit the understanding they have come to about the world and God from Scripture. Not always, but usually this is the case from my experience.

            Your questions involved your own interpretation and assumptions concerning the God the Bible, so I could not answer them according to your understanding. It is would be like asking, “Why did Fred not get the ball out of the house like I asked him to?” Well, Fred could not get the ball out of the house, because it was in the yard. Sometimes my questions do not exactly fit the answer. I tried to answer your questions, since it seemed you asked them of me already and I did a poor job in answering them, which I apologize for. I do not think we are here to convict anybody of anything. I took our conversation as a fine chat with somebody who enjoys coming to seeker’s blog. Again, I thank you for your cordial conversation. It was a charitable experience, thanks!

            • thank you very much for your extend comment.
              the great value of a conversation with good willed & intellectually curious & honest people is exactly this one: receiving/getting to know the concentrate of a life-long search. so I thank you, adirondack, for taking the time to explain me your understanding of how the Old Testament could not be read separated from the New one and viceversa and so why YHW is Jesus’ father.
              Yes, you are right, I haven’t studied the Scriptures, I am only a sporadical participant in Sunday masses where one passage of the Old and another from the New Testament is being read at a time. What makes me inquisitive and not particularly at ease with those Old Testament scriptures is the fact that in 80% of the cases the narrative goes about the “chosen people/the jews”.
              Have I understand you correctly, that those “chosen people” from the Old Testament are in fact the proto-christians and not the talmudic jews?
              My questions are purely cognitive, no will for polemics at all here, I’m sorry if I may have seemed otherwise.
              It’s no secret that at the FTM blog those who know very well the Biblical texts are you & Rev…so a conversation with both of you is always very enriching.
              And yes, at the end I think, all of us thrive to do good, please & feel God, whatever name we could give to Him.

              • “Have I understand you correctly, that those “chosen people” from the Old Testament are in fact the proto-christians and not the talmudic jews?”

                Yes, but I may need a technical caveat to make sure I am saying “yes” to the question I think you are asking.

                It depends on what you mean by “proto”. I would say it this way:

                David, Rahab, etc. – all believers in the OT ARE Christians. The name “Christian” does not come until later in history, more on this below. The talmudic jews are not real Jews and are not Christians. This is why Christ rebuked the Pharisees and Sadducees when they said their father was Abraham. Christ rebuked them in pointing out they were unbelievers, so Abraham could not be their father (John 8). Christ said their father was really Satan (John 8:44), meaning, they believed in the ways of Satan and worshipped him when they should be worshipping God. This is a large theme of the New Testament, and written about in the Old Testament also. Paul, for instance, rebukes the proto-talmudic jews with Deuteronomy 30:6 (just to provide one of numerous places it is found in Romans 2:29):

                Deuteronomy 30:6, “The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.”

                Romans 2:29, “29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”

                The proto-talmudic jews called themselves Jews, or whatever, but God was revealing they are not Jews, and not the people of God. The proto-talmudic jews fell away from the Way and no longer walked the straight and narrow that others, who were believers, in the OT had followed.

                You can also read how Jesus quoted this same verse from Deuteronomy to reveal the same thing. He did so when talking about the greatest of the commandments (Matthew 22:36-40). Jesus gave this answer to the Pharisees because they were trying to ensnare Jesus, but His answer exposed the Pharisees for the evil people they were. (Which is partly why they had such a hard time at first killing Jesus, because the crowds were seeing how wonderful Jesus was and the Pharisees and Sadducees were afraid to hurt their own reputation, lose their power etc. in taking him to death too soon.)

                Names in Scripture are revealed progressively. Because in Scripture Names are not how they are thought of as in the English language, especially nominal philosophy. Names are not purely “labels” or “identifiers” in Scripture. Names in the Bible are the very character of the person or Person. Names are a revelation, or say something about the very being of the person. God has Names that reveal who He is, but He does not reveal those perfections of Himself all at once, for example, in Genesis 1:1, there God being the Creator is revealed. In Genesis 2:7, God reveals “He is”, which is usually translated into English as LORD God. “He is” is His covenant Name (which means “God is our God and we are His people” as read in Leviticus, Revelation, and throughout Scripture). The “He is” is the same as “I am” (just different pronoun), which He speaks to Moses from the burning bush and Jesus, as recorded in John, also calls Himself numerous times “I am”, which is not the same “I am” that people use; rather is THE “I am” that only God refers to Himself as. One last example, for God has many revelations (names) of His character, is 1 Samuel 1:3 where God reveals He is the “Lord of hosts”, and James in his epistle calls Jesus “Lord of hosts” (James 5:4). “Lord of hosts” refers to and means Gods’ Kingship (Lord) over all of creation (hosts) for He made all (created) and maintains all (providence), which also refers to or means He is great personal power. Even though all these Names of God were revealed historically at different times, God always was the Lord of hosts or the “I am”, or a number of different Names which reveal who He is; thus, why it is called progressive revelation. Progressively revealed to us, but always that way.

                I bring this naming thing up to demonstrate how God uses names to reveal the character or person. The names of God’s people had been progressively revealed also. They were not called Israel until God revealed to Jacob this name, but many people believed in God well before Jacob. With Christ being the fullest and completest revelation of who God is (God had been progressively revealing who He is from the beginning), then believers were identified with Jesus more and more until they were first called Christians at Antioch. Other names, maybe not translated into English very well, but the different names recorded are: people of the Way, believers, brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, adopted children, beloved children, disciples, Jews (the real Jews are Christians because Jews are circumcised in the heart, in other words, they are believers), friends, heirs, body of Christ, church, etc. (the list is very long). In the Old Testament, we had many also.

                The people of God are the chosen people, because unbelievers do not choose God. The Old Testament does say “chosen people” often, but the New Testament says it also, maybe more.

                Here is one list of God’s chosen people being our name, which is not exhaustive:

                People who reject and do not believe in the God of the Bible do not choose Him. This understanding is another lengthy theology, which I will briefly write about in order to demonstrate the need of it. A lot of time and energy in the church has been and continues to be spent on understanding our free-will and God’s Sovereignty. It is an important part of the Christian life to get this understanding soundly understood in ones own life. We all go through it eventually, and continue to work it out in our lives in more precise, concise, and devotional manners. God is Sovereign and calls His people, which is the only way believers are sure they are saved. We can not depend on our own understanding, because it easily may change and is undependable (we are sinners, meaning, not perfect and corruption does remain in us until our glorification when all sin, sadness, and death is gone upon Christ’s return.). Unbelievers by their own free-will do not believe in God, they probably think they have something better. Believers know they can not depend on themselves, we are weak and creatures, but God never changes and He and His work is certain and true. We rest in Him. We look to Him. Our faith is given by God to us. No matter what we have faith in knowing that God is good and wise and rest in His pure love and holiness to be our Guide. When we hear His Word proclaimed and we believe Christ is our Savior and Lord, we are certain He saved us, not because of anything we can do (we are sinners), for that is the point – Christ saved us. We are certain because God the Holy Spirit gives us a certain and true witness in our hearts that God’s written Word is certain and true and that what Christ did in His accomplished redemptive work, as foretold in the OT and accomplished and recorded in the NT, is certain and true. That is our faith, which is in Jesus.

                I know. Long caveat eh! haha! 🙂

    • its just star wars reduxed!

  4. Reblogged this on World Peace Forum.


    no wonder all the millenialist are having a hard time

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