The CIA and the continuance of individual identity independent of the physical vehicle

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6r5hk1/the_cia_and_the_continuance_of_individual/

I’ve been reading a particular CIA document released under the Freedom of Information Act, and not only is it pretty darn fascinating indeed in and of itself, but I just came across a particular section that has some downright astounding information when you consider the source of the data and what the data itself says and means:

27. Consciousness in Perspective. Having ascertained that human consciousness is able to separate from physical reality and interact with other intelligences in other dimensions within the universe, and that it is both eternal and designed for ultimate return to the Absolute, we are faced with the question: “So what happens then?” Since memory is a function of consciousness and therefore enjoys the same eternal character as the consciousness which accounts for its existence, it must be admitted that when consciousness returns to the Absolute, it brings with it all the memories it has accumulated through experience in reality. The return of consciousness to the Absolute does not imply and extinction of the separate entity which the consciousness organized and sustained in reality. Rather, it suggests a differentiated consciousness which merges with and participates in the universal consciousness and infinity of the Absolute without losing the separate identity and accumulated self-knowledge which its memories confer upon it. What it does lose is the capability for generation of independent thought holograms, since that can be done only by energy in motion. In other words, it retains the power to perceive but loses the power of will or choice. In exchange, however, this consciousness participates in the all-knowing infinite continuum of consciousness which is a characteristic of energy in the ever present. Consequently, it is accurate to observe that when a person experiences the out-of-body state, they are, in fact, projecting that eternal spark of consciousness and memory which constitutes the ultimate source of their identity to let it play in and learn from dimensions both inside and outside the time-space world in which their physical component currently enjoys a short period of reality.

Basically what all this means is that this is the C-I-fucking-A – an agency that, as everyone knows, is about as cut and dry and “sciencey” and not given to bullshit and hodge-podging and coming up with weird “woo woo” theories if it doesn’t work and the data’s not real/doesn’t lead to real-world results. The CIA is into real shit. They may not be the nicest or most service-to-others organization on the planet (read “not at all”), but they don’t fuck around when it comes to pursuing things that have proven themselves to work – for better or for worse. If it’s not real, then it doesn’t benefit their pursuits of accruing more knowledge, more data, and more information that can be used to surveil on and have a decided advantage over whatever citizenry they might be working on or taking down whatever government, country, or corporation they’re interested in.

At the end of the day, this CIA document gives a very clean, cut, and dry, very nuts and bolts calculation…of the soul; of that very phenomenon that, although utterly twisted by the majority of religions, has nonetheless been contentiously touted by so many religious organizations throughout the existence of human civilization. The soul – its possible existence and the continuance of personal identity independent of the physical vehicle (i.e. the body) – is a topic that has been fiercely raged over for as long as can be remembered, and an entire subculture of die-hard atheists have come up that have defended their perspective with just as much fervor and ardency as the craziest religious zealot. To be sure, both sides lie in the far extreme of the spectrum, and both sides it seems are pretty far off-base when it comes to arriving at what the truth really is, but the fact of the matter is that both sides have still garnered an absolutely massive following among the population throughout their respective histories.

Although I for one feel that the vast majority of religion is pretty toxic to real and true spirituality and understanding, my point behind posting this OP is to present everyone with a very dry, very academic, very logical, very “sciencey” assessment of a finding which appears to 100% affirm the existence of personal identity independent of the physical vehicle. According to this info, personal identity does in fact seem to continue on past the expiration of the body.

I’d at least go with the intel that a FOIA-requested CIA document offers over the proclamations of many other sources anyway.

Incidentally, the above-referenced CIA document, interestingly enough, says pretty much exactly the same thing that a poem I ran across a while back by an esoteric poet named Freeman Broiler says. His piece “The Raindrop And The River” mirrors to a tee the very thing that this CIA document concludes in its own investigations.

…Very, very interesting indeed. At the end of the day, another poem Broiler wrote cannot be any more correct as it relates to this particular dynamic in general.

Okay. I guess that’s it. I found this information absolutely fascinating, to say the least, and just wanted to share with everyone.

Cheers,

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5

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read this carefully..and then remember who created the article..

The return of consciousness to the Absolute does not imply and extinction of the separate entity which the consciousness organized and sustained in reality. Rather, it suggests a differentiated consciousness which merges with and participates in the universal consciousness and infinity of the Absolute without losing the separate identity and accumulated self-knowledge which its memories confer upon it.”

thoughts?

401

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~ by seeker401 on August 9, 2017.

7 Responses to “The CIA and the continuance of individual identity independent of the physical vehicle”

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  2. = the doctrine of many esoteric teachings.

    my search for truth has taken me to very similar beliefs about the Big Picture…

    take notre about this:

    “What it does lose – once reached again the Absolute – is the capability for generation of independent thought holograms, since that can be done only by energy in motion. In other words, it retains the power to perceive but loses the power of will or choice.”
    that’s why the great importance of our acts here, during our lifetime…

    good thoughts, good words, good deeds!…

  3. seek, a while ago I posted somewhere on this blog the abstract of a physicist, Stoyan Serg, who claims that after the death of a person remains a “chain” of electric signals that have been created during once life and edited by the brain…or something like that, I don’t remember exactly…pity I could not find it to quote it correctly…

  4. “Basically what all this means is that this is the C-I-fucking-A – an agency that, as everyone knows, is about as cut and dry and “sciencey” and not given to bullshit and hodge-podging and coming up with weird “woo woo” theories if it doesn’t work and the data’s not real/doesn’t lead to real-world results. The CIA is into real shit.”

    The CIA’s real world results are propaganda, power, and by whatever means necessary. Corruption and war are real world results. So yes, the soul of the CIA is “real shit”.


    “At the end of the day, this CIA document gives a very clean, cut, and dry, very nuts and bolts calculation…of the soul…”

    Yeah, the soul of the CIA. Unless there is another soul the CIA promotes that is not the soul of the CIA. There are diverse views of the soul, but apparently, the CIA knows and encourages this particular kind of soul in its’ documentation.


    “To be sure, both sides lie in the far extreme of the spectrum, and both sides it seems are pretty far off-base when it comes to arriving at what the truth really is…Although I for one feel that the vast majority of religion is pretty toxic to real and true spirituality and understanding.”

    Standard lines that everybody uses now and again, including me: The other guy is “extreme” and “toxic”, but not “me”.

  5. http://image.slidesharecdn.com/mvspeakerseries2015-02-24aiisback-150316130823-conversion-gate01/95/artificial-intelligence-is-back-deep-learning-networks-and-quantum-possibilities-22-638.jpg?cb=1426511516

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction

    http://quantumconsciousness.org/content/overview-sh

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