Pope Francis urges Trump to respect “status quo” in Jerusalem..Trump recognises Jerusalem as Israel’s capital

Israeli flags fly near the Dome of the Rock in the Al-Aqsa mosque compound on December 5, 2017.


Pope Francis has stated his “concern” over US president Donald Trump’s expected decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

The Pope said he “cannot keep silent” over the “situation that has arisen in recent days”, and called for respect for the “status quo of the city, in accordance with the relevant resolutions of the United Nations”.

“Jerusalem is a unique city, sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims, who venerate the Holy Places of their respective religions, and has a special vocation to peace.

“I pray to the Lord that this identity would be preserve and strengthened for the benefit of the Holy Land, the Middle East and the whole world and that wisdom and prudence would prevail, to avoid adding new elements of tension in a world already shaken and marked by many cruel conflicts.”


President Donald Trump reversed decades of US policy on Wednesday and recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, despite warnings from around the world that the gesture further drives a wedge between Israel and the Palestinians.

In a speech at the White House, Trump said his administration would also begin a process of moving the US embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which is expected to take years.

The status of Jerusalem – home to sites holy to the Muslim, Jewish and Christian religions – has been one of the thorniest issues in long-running Middle East peace efforts.

Israel considers the city its eternal and indivisible capital and wants all embassies based there. Palestinians want the capital of an independent Palestinian state to be in the city’s eastern sector, which Israel captured in the 1967 Middle East war and annexed in a move never recognised internationally.

Trump’s decision is likely to please his core supporters – Republican conservatives and evangelical Christians who comprise an important share of his political base.

Trump aides contend the move reflects the reality of Jerusalem as the centre of Jewish faith and the fact that the city is the seat of the Israeli government.


Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte expressed interest in moving his country’s embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, Channel 1 news reported on Wednesday, a day after U.S. President Donald Trump announced his intention to relocate the U.S. embassy.

According to the report, the Czech Republic expressed interest in moving their embassy to Jerusalem as well.

Trump told Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan’s King Abdullah II that he plans to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem on Tuesday, according to Abbas’ spokesman and Jordanian reports. Trump also called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi and Saudi King Salman to inform them of the decision.


well he did it..

and we await the fall out..at this stage it hasnt developed beyond some injuries..will it spark intifada part 3?

will other nations join the usa?

3000 years eh?


~ by seeker401 on December 8, 2017.

410 Responses to “Pope Francis urges Trump to respect “status quo” in Jerusalem..Trump recognises Jerusalem as Israel’s capital”

  1. US to Move Embassy to Jerusalem May 2018

  2. Palestine asks Vatican to defend Jerusalem’s status quo
    Vatican City, Feb 16, 2018 / 03:00 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Palestinian Foreign Affairs minister, Ryadh al Maliki, met officials of the Vatican Secretariat of State Feb. 16, asking the Holy See to amplify its voice defending the status quo in Jerusalem.

    “It is important to understand that the situation of Jerusalem also deals with Christians,” the minister told CNA after the meeting, during a short briefing with journalists in the State of Palestine’s recently opened embassy to the Holy See.

    “We would like the Holy See lead a conference of Christians in the Middle East, in order to make their voice stronger.”

    According to al Maliki, this pressure aims at “changing the sacred character of the city, and to turn the city into a Jewish one.”

    In particular, al Maliki is referring to a recent decision of Nir Barkat, Jerusalem’s mayor, to begin assessing municipal taxes on some church properties.

    In a joint statement, the Churches of Jerusalem stressed that this decision “goes agaist the historic position throughouth the centuries of the Churches and the Holy City of Jerusalem,” and that the measure “undermines the sacred character of Jerusalem, and jeopardises the Church’s ability to conduct its ministry in this land on behalf of its communities and the world-wide church.”

    According to al Maliki, neither Cardinal Parolin or Archbishop Gallagher objected to the idea of a conference under the Holy See’s lead. However, no decision has yet been made.

    Abbas Downplays Health Concerns After US Hospital Visit

    AFP AFP•February 23, 2018

    Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas appeared on local television Friday to downplay concerns over his health after undergoing what were described as routine tests in the United States.

    In an interview with Palestine TV while in the US, 82-year-old Abbas rejected reports he had been rushed to hospital during his visit.

    “It was a suitable opportunity to be here to conduct some medical tests, and these tests have been conducted and now we left,” he said after leaving hospital.

    “Thank God all the results are positive and reassuring.”

    The health of the longtime smoker has long been the subject of speculation, with no clear successor identified.

    Abbas was in the US to meet with political allies amid a breakdown of communication with the US administration following President Donald Trump’s controversial recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.


    hmmmmmm Does Abbas have cancer? Was he promised the cure? Or was this just an opportune time for a ‘check up’?

  3. Why are the Pope and Turkey Leader Meeting over Jerusalem?


  4. The Biblical Prophetic End Time Hegelian Dialetic ..

  5. Seek, a few years ago I made the following comment and you agreed with me .. ‘I believe there are people in positions of power and wealth intent on using the Biblical prophecies as a script’ .. the fact that you agreed with me encouraged me to pursue that train of thought .. its not that I don’t believe Biblical prophecy but I have some understanding of the Hegelian Dialectic and is very well articulated in the following .. although I may not agree with some details ..

    “End Times” Programming [1.6]
    [Mod 1.6 – 24 January 2018] – I’ve added a quick overview of the globalists’ prophecy fulfillment plans to the top of the page. It begins here>>>

    As we watch the inexorable and seemingly inexplicable march towards high-intensity war in Korea and the Middle East, and as we observe the controlled elements of the alt-media promoting Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin as our nascent saviors from the “Satanic globalists” and their dastardly plans, it’s important to realize that we’re being set up. The setup goes beyond the mere launch of the New World Order, though; it is a setup that ultimately aims to artificially fulfill Biblical prophecy and simulate a Second Coming of Christ.
    This prophecy fulfillment scheme is a project of the Kabbalist “Jewish” central bankers and their royal family partners in crime, and it is being orchestrated by the Chabad-Lubavitch Kabbalist “Jewish” cult. Chabad is a religious front of the Mossad, and it is focused on producing the globalist End Times show. It also has intimate connections to both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. In fact, both Trump and Putin have large roles within their End Times script. For Act 1, Trump has been cast to play the “Moshiach ben Yosef” (the precursor messiah), and Putin has been cast to play the “Moshiach ben David” (the main messiah). And in Act 2, Putin’s character will transition into the role of “Final Antichrist” to the globalists’ fake Jesus, the “Kabbalah-Christ.”
    In order to deceive the world into accepting their Kabbalah-Christ as the real Jesus, the globalists are planning to artificially fulfill the Biblical prophecies TWICE. The first fulfillment will provide the “Satanic deception” that Christians are expecting, and the second will provide the “real Second Coming” they’re also expecting. Both fulfillments will feature a Christ and Antichrist. Both will include a 7-headed, 10-horned Beast out of the Sea and a Beast out of the Earth to help the Beast out of the Sea. And both will feature Gog-Magog Wars and Battles of Armageddon. But both are false fulfillments. I know this with certainty because I’ve observed their propagandists laying the groundwork for both, and I’ve documented their deceptions in my blog.


    I realize this Biblical Prophetic End Time Hegelian Dialetic has been scripted for quite some time .. I believe beginning in 135 AD with the initiation of the first Roman Bishop of Jerusalem .. the support of Martin Luther by Merovingian Jews and further evidenced by the recent find ..


    a more recent find reveals the unimaginable extent of this dialetic .. the Table of Contents alone is eye opening ..


    Jewish Influence On Christian Reform Movements


    This work is a study of a few typical “Reform Movements” or heresies in the history of Catholicism during the Middle Ages and of Protestantism during the Reformation era. It has been under- taken with a view to describing and analyzing the contributions by Jews and Judaism to the rise and development of these move- ments. I have selected for detailed investigation the Iconoclas- tic Controversy of the ninth century, the Catharist, Waldensian, Passagian and Judaizing heresies of the eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth centuries, because they typify “Reform” tendencies within Catholicism. To illustrate similar tendencies in Prot- estantism, I have chosen the Hussite movement during the fifteenth century, the Pre-Reformation period; the Lutheran movement in Germany and the Swiss revolt led by Zwingli, both during the Reformation period; the Unitarian movement pro- moted by Michael Servetus during the sixteenth century, and the Puritan movement in England and America, both during the Post-Reformation era….


    This of course continues today with the Hebrew Movement which I am familiar with and have benefited from in my personal study of the Bible but the roots of the Hebrew Movement are no doubt questionable ..


    Several years ago, a prophecy titled “The Hebrew Movement” was distributed by Open Church Ministries in Colorado Springs, the epicenter of the Rockefeller-financed and controlled neo-Evangelical network. The prophecy which was distributed by OCM vice president, Dean Cozzens, revealed that the Hebrew Movement is the final phase of development in a planned progression of “new revelation” cults within Evangelicalism, the previous three movements being the Pentecostal, the Faith-Healing and the Charismatic Movements …

    As part of the global apparatus for the restructuring of religious institutions, creating discontent with orthodoxy and demand for change, the Open Church Ministries would, however, be on an “inside track” to understand the sequence of mass religious movements that has been designed to transform Christianity as we have known it.
    The Hebrew movement is not confined to the Protestant/Evangelical sector, for we have learned that the Catholic Church has also been infiltrated with Judaizers having a remarkably similar agenda — to instruct the Gentiles in the Talmud and other Jewish writings and customs. Indeed, we are informed that this movement is promoted by the Catholic hierarchy who, not unlike the familiar wolves of Evangelicalism, whether mainstream or discernment-oriented, lead unsuspecting sheep into the Kabbalist lair. The reasonable explanation for this apparent networking would be the total control by Judeo-Freemasonry of the governing bodies of Catholicism, Protestantism and Evangelicalism.
    It is essential to understand that the occult establishment has infiltrated religious institutions across the confessional board and is operating within them under different aliases. Having retained their Masonic identity within Protestantism, this syndicate assumes the guise of Opus Dei in the Catholic Church, B’nai B’rith among the Jews and the Messianic Movement within Evangelicalism.
    Following the OCM prophecy will be a series of in-depth reports which examine further the Kabbalistic sources used by the Hebrew Roots Movement, and their linkage to Freemasonry. Though not light reading, we felt this information to be requisite for understanding the esoteric foundations of this movement.


    • Wow great links Rev17. For the record, I absolutely believe they are playing out the end days by the ‘script’. For all the crazy things happening today, the technology that is so destructive to mankind, which they will keep for themselves, but claim it will be bad for the world, helping to crash a stock market as a bonus for themselves, the unveiling of all the lies, and now the last frontier, Space and the ‘alien disclosure’ crap, the destruction of our economy which will take down the world if we go first – it seems they are going all in for their one world order- BUT…..if they do that, it’s endgame for them, according to the ‘script’ , so I think it’s just the end of the age and the American Empire, which won’t die but be outsourced, and back to Genesis because they built a new world with our money in the Middle Eastern / Africa area and China was the benefactor of American blood and our economy.

      I just wonder if the real Creator God, won’t have a surprise for ‘them’ as well.

    • i think we also said..it doesnt matter if we believe it or not..its whether they believe it..great links..

  6. https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2018/02/24/press-tv-us-embassy-move-provocative/
    min. 1:50

    • Interesting….. maybe THAT’S the plan To get the U.S. OUT OF THE PEACE PLAN and More Banker Israeli Wars?

  7. Ancient Jewish Sources Indicate Trump Will Pave Way for Third Temple: Prominent Rabbi

    “No leader in history has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of the Jews and Israel,” he pointed out. “He has already created a great tikkun (reparation) for the Christians through his unprecedented relationship with Jerusalem. Trump is the representative of Edom that will perform that final historic reparation for his entire nation by building the Temple.”
    Read more at https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/104682/ancient-jewish-sources-indicate-trump-will-pave-way-for-third-temple-prominent-rabbi/#yFBPyGvcQpccVQXu.99


  8. The Vatican Agenda:
    How Does The Vatican View The Legitimacy of Israel’s Claims To Jerusalem?


    • Seems like a ‘win win’ for the ‘jews’ that are not Jews, since they’ve been occupying the Vatican for years as well as controlling Israel – they have the Roman Catholic Church as their scapegoat, and the Romans could care less so long as they rule the world!

      • And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your King!” …

        “We have no king but Caesar,” replied the chief priests.

        Papal Knighthood Given to a Jewish Rabbi

        • Excellent Point Rev17! Some say ‘Jesus’ WAS Caesar, Tiberius Caesar Dīvī Augustī Fīlius Augustus; son of Tiberius Claudius Nero, (Latin for “Julius is God”) to become Divi Filius(Latin for the “Son of a God”). Replacing Yehoshua, or Yeshua and declaring himself, as the god of this world, just as the popes still do??

          from your link

          “The truth of the matter is that Catholics, since Vatican II, have been wandering in a desert of dissension in a Church rife with confusion just as the Israelites physically drifted in circles in the desert after worshipping the golden calf. This is a Church where the “natural” has replaced the “supernatural” as the main priority in a vain search for a “Masonic New World Order earthly utopia” – a lie ”

          I would say more than Catholics are wandering the desert, but this is how they will ‘unite’ the world under the one religion.

          Thanks Rev

      • Pontius Pilate was the Roman authority in Judea and by Roman authority he declared Yahshua .. King of Judah .. he even put it in writing in three languages Hebrew, Latin and Greek .. in Hebrew it read YAHUSHA OF NATSARIYTH THE KING OF THE YAHUDIYM .. those who claimed to be what they are not, testified against themselves when they declared .. WE HAVE NO KING BUT CEASAR

        • You’re right, of course! Pilate declared Jesus to be innocent of the charges against him by the rabbis and those who wanted to keep their power over the people.

          Pilate summoned Jesus and asked him, ‘Are you the king of the Jews?’ ‘Is that your own idea,’ Jesus asked, ‘or did others talk to you about me?’ ‘Am I a Jew [that I should care]?’ Pilate replied. ‘It was your people and your chief priests who handed you over to me. What is it you have done?’ Jesus said, ‘My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place.’ [So!] ‘You are a king, then!’ said Pilate. Jesus answered, ‘You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.’ ‘What is truth?’ [a puzzled] Pilate asked. With this he went out again to the Jews and said, ‘I find no basis for a charge against him.’ ” (John 18:28-38)

          I believe Herod also found Jesus innocent and in the end, it was the jewish temple High Priests or the Pharisees/Sadducees who demanded his death, therefore the sign Pilate placed above the head of the Christ was in fact, a condemnation of the jews themselves.

        • “Pontius Pilate was the Roman authority in Judea and by Roman authority he declared Yahshua .. King of Judah .. he even put it in writing in three languages Hebrew, Latin and Greek”

          excuse my ignorance, Rev, but what is the document on which your statement is based? thanks.

          • 14 Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover; it was about the [h]sixth hour. And he *said to the Jews, “Behold, your King!” 15 So they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him, crucify Him!” Pilate *said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar.”

            16 So he then handed Him over to them to be crucified.
            17 They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, [i]bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in [j]Hebrew, Golgotha. 18 There they crucified Him, and with Him two other men, one on either side, and Jesus in between.

            19 Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It was written, “JESUS THE NAZARENE, THE KING OF THE JEWS.” 20 Therefore many of the Jews read this inscription, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written in [k]Hebrew, Latin and in Greek. 21 So the chief priests of the Jews were saying to Pilate, “Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews’; but that He said, ‘I am King of the Jews.’” 22 Pilate answered, “What I have written I have written.”
            Matthew 19

  9. And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your King!” …

    “We have no king but Caesar,” replied the chief priests.

    Papal Knighthood Given to a Jewish Rabbi

  10. Well, as if we didn’t know this by now, it should be perfectly clear just who The Society of Jesus represents. One Ring

    One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
    One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

    Government is Replacing Religion, According to Researchers

    Fri, 04/20/2018 – 12:49
    Via The Daily Bell

    “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people” -Karl Marx

    A group of researchers agrees. They think they have proven that if you have a government you don’t need religion. They concluded that “religiosity” wanes as people get more help from government programs. They think that people replace spiritual help from God with tangible help from the government.

    Researchers call it an exchange model of religion: If people can get what they need from the government (be it health care, education or welfare) they’re less likely to turn to a divine power for help, according to the theory.

    But are people actually more likely to drop religion in places where governments provide more services and stability? In a new paper, psychology researchers crunched the numbers — and found that better government services were in fact linked to lower levels of strong religious beliefs.

    Those findings held true in states across the U.S. and in countries around the world, researchers said.

    The article, “Religion as an Exchange System: The Interchangeability of God and Government in a Provider Role,” was published April 12 in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.



    • 501c3

      Pastors, evangelists, missionaries, elders, deacons, watch this carefully because I need to make this abundantly clear. You have a 501c3 INCORPORATED status. That means your church is a corporation of the state. Here is the message that I, other preachers, and the IRS is trying to get you to understand about the contract you signed:

      The creator of your church is the State.
      The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over your church.
      Your church is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers.
      Your church has no constitutionally protected rights.
      Your church is an artificial person.
      Your church submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State.
      Your church is created for the benefit of the public.
      Your church is a State franchise.
      Your church is a privilege granted by the State.
      (The word church can also be replaced with ministry or mission.)

      Before we continue, any Christian ought to be able to see the clear Biblical violations a 501c3 incorporated church is committing! Once a preacher has signed the papers, it does not matter who the pastor says his creator is when he’s up on the pulpit, because he signed a document denouncing the Lord Jesus Christ as his creator, and put the state in His place. It does not matter who the pastor says is the sole authority and sovereign head over the church he’s preaching at, because he signed a document declaring that the State has authority over the church of Christ. It does not matter who the pastor says gives Christians liberty, because he signed a document stating that no liberties can be taken within the church unless approved by state-granted privileges. The screams of violation to the Gospel are already deafening, and we have barely started looking into the depths of 501c3 status.


      • Funny how we never think of this – they’re so busy telling us about the separation of state and church, YET, it’s a state franchise!! WOW! Thanks Rev it makes a heck of a lotta sense to me. It’s why they are so easily able to use the pastors for their own political / global agenda. I’m certain there are some who have no clue, and just as certain many who know exactly what their mission is.

    • The Truth About Church Incorporation and 501(c)3 Status

      The State is Sovereign Over Its Corporations
      Having briefly examined the biblical definition of a corporation, let us now look at the legal definition of a corporation. According to the United States Supreme Court:
      A corporation is a creature of the state. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises and holds them subject to the laws of the state and the limitation of its charter. Its powers are limited by law. It can make no contract not authorized by its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and ascertain if it has exceeded its powers.(3)
      In Black’s Law Dictionary we find a similar definition:
      Corporation. An artificial person or legal entity created by or under the authority of the laws of a state. An association of persons created by statute as a legal entity…. The corporation is distinct from the individuals who comprise it (shareholders)…. Such an entity subsists as a body politic under a special denomination, which is regarded in law as having a personality and existence distinct from that of its several members….(4)
      The laws dictating incorporation are very specific:
      A corporation can have no legal existence outside of the boundaries of sovereignty by which it is created. It exists only in contemplation of law… and where that law ceases to operate… the corporation can have no existence.(5)
      A corporation derives its existence and all of its powers from the State and, therefore, has only such powers as the State has conferred upon it. Power is used here to mean the legal capacity to execute and fulfill the objects and purposes for which the corporation was created, and the source of this power is the charter and the statute under which the corporation was organized….
      Corporate existence is a privilege granted by the sovereign upon compliance with specified conditions.(6)…

      Though the majority the framers of the Constitution were not genuine Christians, they nevertheless understood that the Church of Christ is under the sole jurisdiction of its sovereign Lord, and that the civil magistrate therefore should not dare to encroach upon that authority. Accordingly, James Madison, while serving as President of the United States, vetoed a bill for the incorporation of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the District of Columbia, arguing that “incorporation was a form of licensing by which government gave churches permission to operate.” As such, “incorporation was superfluous; government had no jurisdictional authority to tell churches they can
      or cannot operate.”(12) Madison’s healthy respect for the sovereignty of the Church was derived in part from the very first sentence of the Bill of Rights reads, “Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”(13) According to Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, “The ‘establishment clause’ of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church.”(14)
      It was one of the principles of the sixteenth-century Reformation that the Church and the State are distinct governments, and that, although they are to work together for the advancement of Christ’s Kingdom, they are not to either merge with one another or usurp the sphere of authority of one another.(15) The Church is forbidden by Scripture to take up the State’s “sword” (Romans 13:4), and the State is likewise forbidden to assume the Church’s “keys” (Matthew 16:19). However, as we will see, the latter is precisely what occurs whenever a church seeks incorporation at the hands of the State.


    • lol. this model doesn’t work.
      the experiment was done during the communist era and it showed that:
      – the man NEEDS a connection with the Creator;
      – no government could feed that need with whatsoever;
      – the search for our spiritual “other self” is intuitive and no materialism/consumism could fill or replace it.

      btw, Marx was Rthshcld’s cousin…

      what a surprise. NOT.
      one of ((them)), from the same region:

      • Nice work maria, I had no idea Karl Marx was related to Rothschild. Should have guessed it though. Karl Marx wanted to remove the opiate of the ‘Jews’, and then the Christians – religion

        This has a lot of interesting info, but I imagine it could also contain as everything, disinfo as well.

        Rothschild Sabbatean Zionist State of Israel preparing the Future Home for the Returning Ten Tribes of the House of Israel

        The Divine Mission to Restore the Lost Sheep (Tribes) of the House of Israel

        The Jewish Connection – The Sabbateans Goal: ‘To Eliminate the Opiate of the Jews”

        Almost sixteen hundred years after Joseph of Arimathea and the twelve Jewish Culdees (Refugees) were exiled from Judea and landed on the coastline of Marseilles France, a new messianic phenomenon erupted upon this globe in central Europe. The Culdee Nazarene mission was to bring the Jewish messianic message of salvation and redemption for all mankind; Jews and Gentiles alike. The new apostate Jewish Messianism was to bring an era of destruction, insurrection, imperialism, oppression, world wars, holocausts and massive economic chaos. The fullest revelation of this false messianic idealism is only being revealed today as the entire economic world order, built on premises of fraud and deceit appears to be collapsing before our own eyes.

        The year was 1666, and the Turkish Kabbalist (not Kabalist, Cabbalist or Qabbalist) Jew, Shabbatai Tzevi announced to his Jewish followers that the day of the messiah had come. Actually that “day” was calculated in advance to be on a specific date, June 18, 1666. With a little insight we begin to see the strange relationships of this specific date to the arrival of the future anti-Messiah in the years just preceding the coming of the true Jewish Messiah. On this date, the pristine mystical truths of the World of the Divine as given and preserved by the Jewish sages began to be corrupted by the demonic forms of evil in Christian Kabalism or Cabalism and Islamic Qabbalism.

        more http://www.biblesearchers.com/hebrewchurch/primitive/losttribesisrael13.shtml

      • “Nice work maria, I had no idea Karl Marx was related to Rothschild.”
        point to seek, really: I learnt about that here, at FTM

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